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Jorge
02-06-2012, 10:11 AM
At the end of the week I'll be seated on the board. Anything I may say after that point is my opinion, and my opinion alone...unless the minutes indicate the board happens to be in agreement with that opinion:wink: I believe I'll be spending a lot more time asking questions, than I will offering opinions. I believe that it's more important to my performance for me to know what you think. I NEED your input to represent you!

I'll continue to read this forum and reply when appropriate. Beyond that, you can email me via KCBS, as well as this forum. If you use this forum, please place KCBS in the subject so that it goes to the proper folder. I've got a business to run, and a family to spend time with. Volume and subject will determine the length of the replies I'm able to send. If you don't get a reply within a day or two acknowledging that I got your email, I didn't. Please send it again!

Whether you voted for me or not, I represent you if you are a KCBS member. Please help me do that, to the best of my ability.

Arlin_MacRae
02-06-2012, 11:00 AM
You've got it, brother. Thanks for going through all this for us.

Arlin

Ron_L
02-06-2012, 12:44 PM
If you use this forum, please place KCBS in the subject so that it goes to the proper folder.

Did you mean "If you use e-mail..."

Good luck!

bbqbull
02-07-2012, 10:22 AM
Thank you for your time Jorge!

Jorge
02-07-2012, 11:46 AM
Did you mean "If you use e-mail..."

Good luck!

Actually, I meant if you use this forum to email me:becky: It goes to a personal account and saves the sender the step of having to go to KCBS.us if they don't already have that email address saved. Thank you grammar nazi:becky:

Rookie'48
02-07-2012, 10:27 PM
Relax Jorge, we've only got a couple of days left before the targets get pinned on our backs :rolleyes: :wink:.

I also will be cutting back on posts that might be taken the wrong way. If I post anything as a KCBS BoD member I will state that this is from the BoD. Otherwise anything that I offer an opinion on is MY opinion, mine only, and NOT an official opinion from KCBS, the BoD or anyone else.

Like Jorge, I want to get opinions and ideas from the members so that I can truly represent the members. I'm going to be kind of quiet for the first BoD meeting or two, getting a feel for what's going on & how things happen. I may be contacting some of you for input on things that come up.

Remember - it's your KCBS, lets all do our best to make it the best that we can.

Arlin_MacRae
02-08-2012, 06:25 AM
I also will be cutting back on posts that might be taken the wrong way. If I post anything as a KCBS BoD member I will state that this is from the BoD. Otherwise anything that I offer an opinion on is MY opinion, mine only, and NOT an official opinion from KCBS, the BoD or anyone else.

It's not so hard to do. We moderators live that every day. We use green text to indicate official stuff; the real 'us' use regular black text. :-D

You should use a different color for KCBS business writing. Maybe...magenta? :laugh::boxing::heh:

Slamdunkpro
02-08-2012, 09:32 AM
You should use a different color for KCBS business writing. Maybe...magenta? :laugh::boxing::heh:

Brilliant!:thumb:

bover
02-08-2012, 10:34 AM
Good luck guys. Keep your heads level and your skin thick and this just might be an enjoyable experience!

Rookie'48
02-08-2012, 10:08 PM
Josh, right now it might just be keeping our heads above water that's the goal.

Slamdunkpro
02-08-2012, 10:22 PM
Tell me what you think

I think you iz craazy:scared::scared:

Jorge
02-08-2012, 10:38 PM
I think you iz craazy:scared::scared:

Isn't that a given, at this point?

TooSaucedToPork
02-09-2012, 06:54 AM
I can't wait to see you guys become just another cog in the political machine:heh:

But, seriously - Thanks for all you guys do, and what I know you are going to try to do...I really do look forward to a period of openness and change within the KCBS organization...:clap2:

Neil

Scottie
02-09-2012, 08:32 AM
I remember when you guys used to be fun..... ;)

Jorge
02-09-2012, 10:47 AM
I remember when you guys used to be fun..... ;)

Loan me a cooker, and tell me where to buy some Harpoon in Chicagoland and I'll show you fun. My ringer will knock on your door instead for drunk dialing me like he did from Vegas, using your phone:laugh:

Scottie
02-09-2012, 01:20 PM
I'll have the Jambo nice and shiny and a cooler full of Harpoon for you...

bover
02-11-2012, 08:41 AM
So guys...how did it go last night?

Jorge
02-13-2012, 11:39 AM
So guys...how did it go last night?

Let me sleep on my notes for another night to soak it ALL in via osmosis!:laugh:

Lots to take in, and lots to do in the future.

MoKanMeathead
02-13-2012, 12:15 PM
From the KCBS Quick Notes:

"Four additional assignments were made as follows:

Judges' Advocate - Dave Compton Team Advocate - Steve Mullins"

So does that mean Steve AND Jorge are the team advocates??

Jorge
02-13-2012, 12:34 PM
From the KCBS Quick Notes:

"Four additional assignments were made as follows:

Judges' Advocate - Dave Compton Team Advocate - Steve Mullins"

So does that mean Steve AND Jorge are the team advocates??

I advocate nothing. :laugh: Steve got that job. I'll pass the correction along.

Smokedelic
02-13-2012, 01:18 PM
Disappointed that they are doing away with comment cards, especially by blaming it on the new scoring system...that hasn't been introduced yet. Many on the Board have been grinding this axe for awhile.

From what I gather from the quick notes, the new scoring system uses the original box number on the score sheet, instead of the alt number, which the current system has for years. I guess having to pair comment cards with the alt number to score sheets with the original number is too daunting of a task for reps to deal with, even though all the information to accomplish this is available, and could be made available...especially since the software hasn't been introduced yet. :roll:

bover
02-13-2012, 04:55 PM
I'm with you Mike. The part about the comment cards is really disappointing...especially given the reasoning provided. There has got to be more to the story because the information provided in the meeting notes alone is incredibly weak logic.

SirPorkaLot
02-13-2012, 06:53 PM
I rarely received comment cards anyways.
I would have loved to have them, but it never seemed to be in the cards.
( Pun intended )

smoke-n-my-i's
03-12-2012, 04:58 PM
I just want to take a moment to thank each and every one that is on the board. If you have never been on one, well, you just don't realize what happens, and what goes on behind the scenes. Believe me, I know, not for as being on the KCBS board, but I have been on several boards of other organizations.

Thanks again for your dedication and love for the reason you agreed to do. :clap2: :thumb: :-D

Bigdog
03-12-2012, 07:43 PM
I sure that there will be enough Shiner Bock to get you through all of this Jorge.:thumb:

carlyle
03-13-2012, 10:55 AM
Yes, Shiner Bock with help with almost anything - yeah, we enjoy that up here in the northland too.

All 4 of you new board members have the support of a lot of us.

I ask that you remember this saying... " Sometimes it is hard to remember that the original objective was to drain the swamp when you are up to your behind in alligators."

Just stay focused on making KCBS better for all of us in spite of all the distractions that are sure to come your way.
Thanks for your dedication and willingness to participate.

Jeff_in_KC
03-13-2012, 11:24 PM
Just stay focused on making KCBS better for all of us in spite of all the distractions that are sure to come your way.
Thanks for your dedication and willingness to participate.

No doubt! Thank you for this comment! It is appreciated more than you know!

Bunny
03-17-2012, 11:38 AM
I''m not finding the quick notes on the last meeting. Where are you seeing this stuff?

Jeff_in_KC
03-17-2012, 11:04 PM
Bunny, the board meeting was postponed to next Wednesday because we did not have an agenda 48 hours prior to the meeting.

Bunny
03-18-2012, 10:01 PM
Understand completely!

Smokedelic
03-18-2012, 10:40 PM
So that's how it works? Someone drops the ball and doesn't do their job and you just postpone the meeting until they decide to do what they're supposed to do? Must be nice...

Jeff_in_KC
03-18-2012, 11:00 PM
So that's how it works? Someone drops the ball and doesn't do their job and you just postpone the meeting until they decide to do what they're supposed to do? Must be nice...

Mike, the rule that the Board imposed upon itself is that the agenda has to be distributed to all board members 48 hours prior to the meeting beginning. There was an interest by some to continue and have the meeting anyway.

My contention is that we were sending a bad message to the membership if allowed our own rule for ourselves to be blown off for our own interests when teams and judges are expected to follow all of the rules at contests. It was the correct thing to do.

QN
03-19-2012, 07:34 AM
Mike, the rule that the Board imposed upon itself is that the agenda has to be distributed to all board members 48 hours prior to the meeting beginning. There was an interest by some to continue and have the meeting anyway.

My contention is that we were sending a bad message to the membership if allowed our own rule for ourselves to be blown off for our own interests when teams and judges are expected to follow all of the rules at contests. It was the correct thing to do.

The thing to have done was to have followed the first rule you reference and get the agenda distributed as required. You specifically stated "the rule that the Board imposed upon itself is that the agenda has to be distributed to all board members 48 hours prior to the meeting beginning." This is not the first time this has happened. How about somebody following that rule? The correct thing to do would have been to get the agenda distributed as required by the rule.

dmprantz
03-19-2012, 07:42 AM
I thought I heard that one particular board member was going to be traveling on that day, asked to move it to make his life better, and the board agreed. Did I misunderstand? It's not that I think the board takes priority over personal/professional obligations, but conflicting stories make me wonder...

As an asside, is this something that could/should be automated? A board meeting gets scehduled. Board members get whatever they can on the agenda using a website, and 49 hours before it is supposed to start, the agenda is cut off and automatically eMailed out. No offense to any one out there, but I see humans as devices with a high rate of failure, and I try to eliminate them in processes that depend upon time or accuracy.

dmp

Jeff_in_KC
03-19-2012, 09:58 AM
The thing to have done was to have followed the first rule you reference and get the agenda distributed as required. You specifically stated "the rule that the Board imposed upon itself is that the agenda has to be distributed to all board members 48 hours prior to the meeting beginning." This is not the first time this has happened. How about somebody following that rule? The correct thing to do would have been to get the agenda distributed as required by the rule.

As always, these opinions are my own and not those of KCBS or anyone else on the board so...

Mark, I appreciate your comment but to be honest, while I agree, I cannot speak for anyone else on the board and who does their job in what manner. I can only speak for myself and how I accomplish my tasks that I am assigned. Things do happen (health, technology glitches, other personal issues, etc.) that from time to time might prohibit someone from meeting a deadline - happens in all facets of life. And when it does happen, you have to adjust and do the right thing. In this instance, the right thing was to postpone the meeting to a time when we all were available that was at least 48 hours after the agenda was published.

I thought I heard that one particular board member was going to be traveling on that day, asked to move it to make his life better, and the board agreed. Did I misunderstand? It's not that I think the board takes priority over personal/professional obligations, but conflicting stories make me wonder...

As an asside, is this something that could/should be automated? A board meeting gets scehduled. Board members get whatever they can on the agenda using a website, and 49 hours before it is supposed to start, the agenda is cut off and automatically eMailed out. No offense to any one out there, but I see humans as devices with a high rate of failure, and I try to eliminate them in processes that depend upon time or accuracy.

dmp

dmp, yes, that is a misunderstanding. No one was unavailable the day of the scheduled meeting. In trying to arrange the soonest possible day that we all were available, the following two days were not possible due to people having made prior plans or having other responsibilities. In regards to an automated agenda, that's an interesting idea to hear more about but not sure it would be workable because there is much need for "humanity" in these agendas. And in the instance this month, I suspect there is a good probability that our issue was a technological one as much as a human one.

YankeeBBQ
03-19-2012, 06:06 PM
Either you misunderstood or somebody blatantly lied to you, and that's not my opinion that's a fact.


I thought I heard that one particular board member was going to be traveling on that day, asked to move it to make his life better, and the board agreed. Did I misunderstand?

dmp

Candy Sue
03-20-2012, 09:41 AM
I confirm (not on behalf of KCBS or the board as a whole), that the above two posts reflect my view of the situation as well.

Jorge
03-20-2012, 10:34 AM
Speaking solely for myself, not for KCBS or the board....

Me four. That information is not accurate.

Slamdunkpro
03-20-2012, 10:41 AM
Speaking solely for myself, not for KCBS or the board....

You should have Phil make that your under title.:mrgreen:

Jorge
03-20-2012, 10:50 AM
You should have Phil make that your under title.:mrgreen:

Thanks, Mr. President.:razz:

riblette
03-20-2012, 11:05 AM
On the positive side, as I look through the agenda I do notice the impact of several of the new Board members. To me it looks like they are trying to do what they said they were going to do, which is to make the Board more inclusive and more transparent. Reading between the lines (well, maybe just reading the lines themselves) I can also see there is already resistance. Iím confident the new folks are strong willed and determined, and I look forward to seeing the organization evolve. And I thank them for their service!

David
Rolling Bones
CA

dmprantz
03-20-2012, 11:06 AM
Okay guys! I believed Jeff when he told me I was misunderstood. I concede that the agenda was the only issue and that every one was available. Please stop piling on.

dmp

YankeeBBQ
03-20-2012, 07:38 PM
Please stop piling on.

dmp

You first :icon_smile_tongue: