View Full Version : Seasoning and Spice
BrooklynQ
07-09-2005, 11:03 AM
My discussion with Phil about the Black Jack rub forces me to inquire. What seasoning, spice or flavor would turn you off a food?
For me:
Coffee. I don't care how little there is, it becomes the overwhelming flavor for me.
Cucumbers I can't stand them. Even if they're removed from a salad I can still taste their juices.
Dill Another spice that overwhelms all other flavors for me.
Depends on what foods and in what "context".
I can't stand fennel, usually, but love Italian sausage.
I love cumin in savory dishes - others, like PooBah, can't stand it.
I love cucumber and dill - especially in a cucumber/dill sauce for grilled salmon.
Coffee: my favorite ice cream is Ben & Jerry's Coffee/Heath Bar. :D
Very few spices bother me unless they are misused or someone screwed up on the quatity.
Bigmista
07-09-2005, 01:36 PM
I don't care for lemon anything. Except lemonade.
I do like lime though
icemn62
07-09-2005, 02:09 PM
I don't care for lemon anything. Except lemonade.
I do like lime though
Goes great with certain beers and other beverages
VitaminQ
07-09-2005, 05:40 PM
I get a little twitchy about cooked celery. Bitter and bad!
I have to be careful with cloves, or they everwhelm. That might not be just me, though.
icemn62
07-09-2005, 05:54 PM
Can not go NEAR anything with Mayo in it. Get queasy picking up a jar in the store.
Don't care for Curry
LOVE Garlic
OH my God. I miss read the beginning of this thread. I really cannot think of any spice or seasoning used correctly that is a turn OFF! I suppose any seasoning or spice could be bad if you used too much unless it was garlic, you can never have too much garlic.
BBQchef33
07-10-2005, 01:46 AM
Cumin, smells like and armpit and tastes like dirt.
Curry.... that stuff is a mistake gone bad.
Cloves.. why would u put in your cooking the primary ingriedent in Anbesol. ?
Mustard seed, to me, becomes overwhelming in anything it is in.
Celery seed, have to be REAL careful with it.. get a seed all by itself, and all ya taste is..... celery?
kcquer
07-10-2005, 02:12 AM
Cilantro-I believe cilantro is a spanish word for "tastes like crap".
Qczar
07-10-2005, 06:44 AM
Whew, I can`t help but think some of you`s are being hard on these ingredients. I had a Friend from Michigan over last weekend and he told me he hated spicy foods. Well, after eating some of my spicy ribs (some call them hot), I did`nt hear him complaining, but he sure was enjoying the ice water with it. .......... like some, I dig it all when used in the proper dish.
rbinms33
07-10-2005, 09:14 AM
Cilantro-I believe cilantro is a spanish word for "tastes like crap".
I use Cilantro in my salsas and I've just started using it in my slaw as well but too much of it is not a good thing. It can overwhelm a recipe real quick. I've never met a spice I didn't like.
The two foods that I don't really care for are boiled okra or baked liver. Now if you fry them up, they're fine. Especially the livers, the little gas station on the corner here will fry up livers (and gizzards too) and they're awesome with some Frank's hot sauce or my hot mustard sauce. Good eatin'!
kcquer
07-10-2005, 09:44 AM
It can overwhelm a recipe real quick.
Too much is what will put me off of something for sure. There's a little (30 seats) Mexican place around the corner from my house that makes the best pico. They use cilantro in it for sure but just enough for a subtle taste. I've err'd on the heavy side with the stuff a time or two and it just ruins food.
Use only the leaves, stems are nasty.
Wayne
07-10-2005, 10:09 AM
I am a lucky man......I like everything when it is used correctly. That makes eating so much fun. My daughter is picky and she worries and frets over every bit if she is not sure what is in it. Some of the things that people posted that they hate are some of the things that I like the best. If you guys ever come to my house you would be in trouble if you did not send me a list of no-no's.
rbinms33
07-10-2005, 11:29 AM
Use only the leaves, stems are nasty.
Man, I was making a salsa yesterday and it took me almost an hour to go through a bunch and pick all the leaves off and then chop it up. I refuse to use the dried stuff but there's GOT to be an easier way.
Wayne
07-10-2005, 12:16 PM
Use only the leaves, stems are nasty.
Man, I was making a salsa yesterday and it took me almost an hour to go through a bunch and pick all the leaves off and then chop it up. I refuse to use the dried stuff but there's GOT to be an easier way.
Teenager with a knife would be my choice. Or else you can put a chopping board on your lap in the recliner and pick-a-little, chop-a-little, pick-a-little, chop-a-little while watching reruns of Bonanza.
Just call me Hop Sing.
jgh1204
07-10-2005, 01:01 PM
mesquite smoke
cloves
nutmeg
kc, my dad felt the same way about cilantro.
jgh1204
07-10-2005, 01:06 PM
forgot to add raisans.
parrothead
07-10-2005, 01:10 PM
Mustard! I can't stand it. The only place that it can be used that I do not detect it is in bbq sauce. I can't stand it when I have to add it in when I am making a batch, but as soon as it goes in, I stir vigoursly and it is gone. Wierdly enough, mustard seed in a good sausage is no problem at all.
Coconut! This one is the worst. I can detect it in the most minut quantity. I absolutely hate it, and it makes me throw up. I have eaten things and said "yeucch, there is coconut in this". Someone else will say that I am crazy, they don't taste it what so ever. I go down the list of ingredients and find coconut oil at the very bottom.
Vegetables. Most of my friends know that I do not like vegetables. However it is not the taste. I do not mind the taste of most vegetables, they make things taste good when cooked with them. I just can't stand the texture of most of them in my mouth, cucumbers on the other hand make me sick. just the smell of them.
BigAl
07-10-2005, 03:00 PM
Greg, good thing you did not grow up where I lived, you would not be alive.
BigAl
07-10-2005, 03:06 PM
Use only the leaves, stems are nasty.
Man, I was making a salsa yesterday and it took me almost an hour to go through a bunch and pick all the leaves off and then chop it up. I refuse to use the dried stuff but there's GOT to be an easier way.
I just use the meat Scissors to cut the leaves into small pieces while still on the stems.
Bigdog
07-10-2005, 07:11 PM
Fennel, rosemary, celery seed, clove and curry are not my favorite spices, but can be good if, like a lot of you said, they are used in the correct proportions.
Brauma
07-10-2005, 08:56 PM
you can never have too much garlic
Im in total agreement. Rub garlic on your meat and then take a Lipitor before you go to bed. You be alright.
Wayne
07-10-2005, 11:34 PM
you can never have too much garlic
Im in total agreement. Rub garlic on your meat and then take a Lipitor before you go to bed. You be alright.
Lipitor lowered my cholesterol from 245 to 132 in 90 days.
Use only the leaves, stems are nasty.
Man, I was making a salsa yesterday and it took me almost an hour to go through a bunch and pick all the leaves off and then chop it up. I refuse to use the dried stuff but there's GOT to be an easier way.
I just use the meat Scissors to cut the leaves into small pieces while still on the stems.
Try holding a stem/stalk by the top and gently stripping the leaves off by sliding your fingers on other hand down stem toward bottom. This will eliminate the big stem, which is the problem, with out a lot of work.
I then chop the leaves.
qman
rbinms33
07-11-2005, 09:06 AM
I just use the meat Scissors to cut the leaves into small pieces while still on the stems.
Hey now.....I think you're onto something....I'll try that next.
Try holding a stem/stalk by the top and gently stripping the leaves off by sliding your fingers on other hand down stem toward bottom.
I tried that before and it works better but it still leaves that little string on the end of the leaf. This is my usual MO.....wash the bunch, spread it all out, throw out the crappy looking ones, then just go from stem to stem pinching off the leaves into a pile and then take a big butcher knife to them. The end product is always worth it but it sure is a PITA at the time!
Correct use of stuff is ok. Those that can get real heavy in a hurry (for my tastes) are Sage & Coconut.
Richie said:
Man, I was making a salsa yesterday and it took me almost an hour to go through a bunch and pick all the leaves off and then chop it up. I refuse to use the dried stuff but there's GOT to be an easier way.
Actually, the whole cilantro plant is edible. And to me, the stems taste the same as the leaves. I grow my own but if it's not "in season" I buy it for about $1.00 per bunch at the local supermarket. Just rinse well & dice it fine. Ommiting the roots is optional.
nucleargeek
07-12-2005, 03:22 PM
No Sour Cream whatsoever!!!!!! Most anything else is fine as long as it doesn't get out of hand. Sour Cream = Heebee jeebees
Hoorenga
07-12-2005, 06:10 PM
Cilantro-I believe cilantro is a spanish word for "tastes like crap".
Cilantro reminds me of picking black berrys and you are eating them so fast you forget to look for bugs and you bite into a bug. Yeeeeetch! And Okra, what's that stuff good for? Tastes bad and it's slimy to boot.
jgh1204
07-12-2005, 06:31 PM
pickled okra is pretty good, gets rid of the sliminess.
Kevin
07-12-2005, 06:48 PM
Hello, I'm in Minnesoda,(incorrect spelling intentional) so okra is like a substance from another planet to us in the land of peas and corn, but Gumbo is one of my favorite foods, and okra properly simmered and used in your roux is what makes gumbo.
Just my .02
What a bunch of white-bread, middle-America food wusses! :D
Ya'll need to get out more often!
I swear, you guys are the whiny butts of the week - sour cream? Mayonaisse? Cilantro?
I am so glad I learned to eat just about anything - at least once! I'll admit I don't do well with lamb (I keep a backhoe on retainer to bury lamb remains) - but seaonings and condiments are always being tried out.
Granted I've lived all over the world courtesy of Uncle Sam and I've done restaurant work.
Try some new tastes guys!
Wayne
07-12-2005, 08:46 PM
I think okra is good just about any way you fix it. Did you all know that okra is an African plant that was brought over with the slaves so they would have some familiar food when they got to the new world. When I first saw okra my grandmother fixed it and told me it was good. I wasn't too sure about it but I trusted my grandmother. She was right, and it was love at first bite.
VitaminQ
07-13-2005, 07:21 AM
I just feel sad for picky eaters. There's so much great food out there that they're denying themselves. I work with a guy who only eats chili, as far as I can tell. But he wants no onion, no peppers, no tomatoes, no nothing. It's actually kinda funny.
Bigdog
07-13-2005, 07:44 AM
I just feel sad for picky eaters. There's so much great food out there that they're denying themselves. I work with a guy who only eats chili, as far as I can tell. But he wants no onion, no peppers, no tomatoes, no nothing. It's actually kinda funny.
I'm having that problem with my adopted kids. They won't eat anything with more than 3 ingredients, yet they will pound down fast food with all that crap in it. :oops: And yes, my son won't eat onions, peppers or tomatoes. Someone poisoned his brain. :(
parrothead
07-13-2005, 09:08 AM
I just feel sad for picky eaters
But it keeps us from eating things like spam.
Bigdog
07-13-2005, 09:18 AM
I just feel sad for picky eaters
But it keeps us from eating things like spam.
Got that right. :wink:
Qczar
07-13-2005, 09:45 AM
Serious carnivores here. .......... Damn! Just remember, eating vegi`s starts with eating a nice ear of corn with lot`s of butter.
I watched a show where cilantro or parsely was stripped of it`s leaves by simply holding a washed bundle by the stems, pointed down to a cutting board, and scraping the blade of a large knife from the stems to the tips of the plant. Turning and moving the bundle as the leaves are stripped. Works pretty good.
rbinms33
07-13-2005, 09:46 AM
Actually, the whole cilantro plant is edible. And to me, the stems taste the same as the leaves. I grow my own but if it's not "in season" I buy it for about $1.00 per bunch at the local supermarket. Just rinse well & dice it fine. Ommiting the roots is optional.
Mark.....you talked me into it, I'll try this next time.
And Okra, what's that stuff good for? Tastes bad and it's slimy to boot.
Boiled Okra reminds me of that slime stuff in the "Alien" movies. Surprisingly enough, I can do oysters though. Now fried okra? That's a whole different animal.
When I was growing up, life was simple. Mom fixed food that everybody liked but my sister was a picky eater. She basically had three choices.....eat what was fixed......fix something herself.....or don't eat. Nowadays, if my wife or I fix something that our daughter doesn't like, she'll go fix her some Ramen soup and she's happy. I remember when there wasn't a microwave or instant food. Fixing something to eat back then was time consuming and not very convenient at all. Now that I think about it, I weighed about 80 lbs less back then too. Go figure....heheheheh.
Trout_man22
07-13-2005, 10:14 AM
When I was growing up, life was simple. Mom fixed food that everybody liked but my sister was a picky eater. She basically had three choices.....eat what was fixed......fix something herself.....or don't eat. Nowadays, if my wife or I fix something that our daughter doesn't like, she'll go fix her some Ramen soup and she's happy. I remember when there wasn't a microwave or instant food. Fixing something to eat back then was time consuming and not very convenient at all. Now that I think about it, I weighed about 80 lbs less back then too. Go figure....heheheheh.
When I was growing up we had two choices, eat what Mom fixed or get hit then eat what Mom fixed. I normally did the first one. Might not like it when we has liver or something like that but that was life. Fast food was eating quickly so we could see the one hour of tv per night.
kcquer
07-13-2005, 10:17 AM
My OL is a "fussy eater", which George Carlin properly indentified in the early eighties as just a euphamism for BIG PAIN IN THE ASS!!! No Chinese, no Mexican, no veggies except corn, green beans or peas (all canned won't even eat frozen peas) no left overs, no buffet food, no onion, absolutely nothing with tomatoes (except pasta sauce) but everything must have ketchup on it.
I just feel sad for picky eaters.
NOT ME!!
Hoorenga
07-13-2005, 10:33 AM
I just feel sad for picky eaters. There's so much great food out there that they're denying themselves. I work with a guy who only eats chili, as far as I can tell. But he wants no onion, no peppers, no tomatoes, no nothing. It's actually kinda funny.
I'll eat just about anything onece. Just got into raw oysters recently. Mostly it's just getting over the slime thing. Hot sauce helps. Guess I should hold judgment on okra. I have never had it prepared fresh by anyone with any knowledge of the stuff. I can only think of a couple of things that I don't like to eat and one is liver. I have never eaten Hagas but I bet that it would also be included in my "no eat" list. Not fond of stinky cheses like Port Salute which reminds me of toe jam but I like Blue Cheese and Gargonzola. Anything that smells rotten or funky is out. Kim Chee is borderline but I like Sour Kraut. Still working on Sushi but I like tofu. Nothing better than curried chicken with chutney, peanuts, coconut and pieces of bananna. I love to try new things. My son is the same way. If we go to a new reasturant he will order something he isn't familiar with before he will order something he knows he likes.
Trout_man22
07-13-2005, 10:48 AM
Not fond of stinky cheses like Port Salute which reminds me of toe jam but I like Blue Cheese and Gargonzola.
Hoo, has tasted Toe jam Pass it on :lol:
Moderators: I suggest this thred be split into a new one entitled Wierdest "food" ever eaten.
I'll start
1. Sea slug (Chinese restaurant in Austin TX)
2. Fruit bat (Western Caroline Islands)
3. Dog (Western Caroline Islands)
4. Cat (Mexicali)
Hoorenga
07-13-2005, 12:01 PM
Not fond of stinky cheses like Port Salute which reminds me of toe jam but I like Blue Cheese and Gargonzola.
Hoo, has tasted Toe jam Pass it on :lol:
No, but I will admit to having smelled it.
rbinms33
07-13-2005, 12:13 PM
This could get interesting:
1. Hog's Melt - cut out while slaughtering hogs and cooked right over an open flame.
2. Pork cured the old fashioned way with salt in a smokehouse.
3. Souse (aka Head Cheese)
4. Chitlins (aka Chitterlings) This was the first time I had ever heard of "liquid smoke"
5. Squirrel Brains (really good with eggs)
6. Poke Salad (I think this can actually kill you if not done right)
7. Alligator Tail
8. Conch (not really weird, just not something you eat everyday)
brdbbq
07-13-2005, 12:22 PM
My OL is a "fussy eater", which George Carlin properly indentified in the early eighties as just a euphamism for BIG PAIN IN THE ASS!!! No Chinese, no Mexican, no veggies except corn, green beans or peas (all canned won't even eat frozen peas) no left overs, no buffet food, no onion, absolutely nothing with tomatoes (except pasta sauce) but everything must have ketchup on it.
I just feel sad for picky eaters.
NOT ME!!
Try Banana Cream it works wonders. :roll:
dapittboss
07-13-2005, 01:24 PM
When I was growing up, life was simple. Mom fixed food that everybody liked but my sister was a picky eater. She basically had three choices.....eat what was fixed......fix something herself.....or don't eat. Nowadays, if my wife or I fix something that our daughter doesn't like, she'll go fix her some Ramen soup and she's happy. I remember when there wasn't a microwave or instant food. Fixing something to eat back then was time consuming and not very convenient at all. Now that I think about it, I weighed about 80 lbs less back then too. Go figure....heheheheh.
When I was growing up we had two choices, eat what Mom fixed or get hit then eat what Mom fixed. I normally did the first one. Might not like it when we has liver or something like that but that was life. Fast food was eating quickly so we could see the one hour of tv per night.
People think I'm lucky because my three kids will eat anything, like sardines, mushrooms, onions, pretty much anything really. But hey, it's not luck, it's because they eat what we eat, or they go hungry! Like what Trout was talking about. That's how I was raised, and that's how I raise my kids. My sister's kid is the pickiest eater I've ever seen. I keep telling her to let him stay with me for a month and I could cure him. Oh well...
BrooklynQ
07-13-2005, 01:33 PM
When I was growing up, life was simple. Mom fixed food that everybody liked but my sister was a picky eater. She basically had three choices.....eat what was fixed......fix something herself.....or don't eat. Nowadays, if my wife or I fix something that our daughter doesn't like, she'll go fix her some Ramen soup and she's happy. I remember when there wasn't a microwave or instant food. Fixing something to eat back then was time consuming and not very convenient at all. Now that I think about it, I weighed about 80 lbs less back then too. Go figure....heheheheh.
When I was growing up we had two choices, eat what Mom fixed or get hit then eat what Mom fixed. I normally did the first one. Might not like it when we has liver or something like that but that was life. Fast food was eating quickly so we could see the one hour of tv per night.
People think I'm lucky because my three kids will eat anything, like sardines, mushrooms, onions, pretty much anything really. But hey, it's not luck, it's because they eat what we eat, or they go hungry! Like what Trout was talking about. That's how I was raised, and that's how I raise my kids. My sister's kid is the pickiest eater I've ever seen. I keep telling her to let him stay with me for a month and I could cure him. Oh well...
I wish I could raise my kids that way. My daughter is a Type 1 diabetic, so she has to eat. It's not worth it to battle it out. But, luckily, she'll try just about anything. My son is the pain in the ass. He won't try anything new.
Cuelio
07-13-2005, 01:58 PM
Anise - hate that sh*t. Uzo on the other hand, that's different
Weird sh*t I've tried? Octopus is about as weird as I've gotten. My late father in law liked chocolate covered ants, though.
Qczar
07-13-2005, 02:10 PM
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People think I'm lucky because my three kids will eat anything, like sardines, mushrooms, onions, pretty much anything really. But hey, it's not luck, it's because they eat what we eat, or they go hungry! Like what Trout was talking about. That's how I was raised, and that's how I raise my kids. My sister's kid is the pickiest eater I've ever seen. I keep telling her to let him stay with me for a month and I could cure him. Oh well...[/quote]
Sounds like the way I grew up. But, I fought tooth and nail to eat some foods. It was`nt `till I was in my late teens that I actually had cravings to try things. Sea food, vegetables. Eventually these cravings became stronger to the point I feel my body needing them. Proper nutrition comes from all foods, and they taste good!
VitaminQ
07-13-2005, 08:22 PM
Get this:
Pickled pig uterus. It was awful.
rbinms33
07-14-2005, 07:40 AM
Pickled pig uterus. It was awful.
That's like Fear Factor stuff.
willkat98
07-14-2005, 07:42 AM
Get this:
Pickled pig uterus. It was awful.
What'd it smell like?
rbinms33
07-14-2005, 07:45 AM
Couldn't have been good.....and I bet it didn't taste like chicken either.
VitaminQ
07-14-2005, 08:29 AM
Smelled like vinegar and weirdness. My dad got it from a Chinese restaurant where he was doing some refrigeration work. I had to try it, because it was there, and I almost always win this contest!
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