Water or sand

[scottm4300]

Here's another question that I'd liek to get the latest and greatest opinion on - do you use water or sand in your water pan?

I've used exclusively water to this point, on the premise that it added moisture to the process which was good for the meat. But I read a post recently on another site that disputes that - and contends that water or sand mearely act as heat sinks to assist in temperature control.

What's the prevailing wisdom amongst the Brethren.

Thanks!

Scott

[Kevin]

Would you rather clean out a pan of grease soaked water, or sand?
Just my $.02.

[willkat98]

search link at the top of the forum

enter "water pan sand" click "all" terms. Plenty of discussion

Then, when you want a laugh, go:

http://www.bandera-brethren.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=567&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=water+pan+contents&start=0

[chad]

It's a heat sink.

Either work.

Especially with sand, just cover the pan with a couple layers of foil. Easy cleanup.

Even with water - cover the edges of the pan with foil - again, pretty easy cleanup. Or cover the inside of the bowl with foil and then add the water - when finished, dump the water and remove the foil.

Now, let the battle begin! :D

[Brauma]

My water pan is rusted out. Im in the hunt for a teracota bowl that will fit. Im thinking one of those low rider plant water holder thingies. Im not sure what they are called. But you know what I mean. They usually have a hole in the bottom. The pot sits in it.

Anyway, I'm planning on doing sand most of the time but I'm an experimentor. I'll try anything once. The coffee ground experience sounds like the cat's arse. Maybe even some garlic water. Ooohhh yeeah.

[icemn62]

I use water, it is easy to get, easy to replenish, and easy to clean up.

[parrothead]

UNCLE!

[willkat98]

My water pan is rusted out. Im in the hunt for a teracota bowl that will fit. Im thinking one of those low rider plant water holder thingies. Im not sure what they are called. But you know what I mean. They usually have a hole in the bottom. The pot sits in it.

Anyway, I'm planning on doing sand most of the time but I'm an experimentor. I'll try anything once. The coffee ground experience sounds like the cat's arse. Maybe even some garlic water. Ooohhh yeeah.

Does not compute!

Rusted out?

Nope, impossible with a Bandera pan

Order a Brinkman CharcoalPan. $13 delivered. Dont scrub. no rust

[nmayeux]

My water pan is rusted out. Im in the hunt for a teracota bowl that will fit. Im thinking one of those low rider plant water holder thingies. Im not sure what they are called. But you know what I mean. They usually have a hole in the bottom. The pot sits in it.
I realize that this might not be what you want, but Bass Pro has the replacement pans that fit the Bandera. They are made by Brinkmann, but they work well, and are only a few bucks.
Noah

[TangSooDoMan]

I use sand and get very good results, and it's sooo easy to clean.

[nucleargeek]

i use water.....harder to clean i suppose, but can be quickly filled or replaced.

[racer_81]

Well, in the Bandera, I use sand exclusively because the water crud is just too hard to clean.

I see no difference in the final product attributable to the sand versus water.

In the WSM, I use water - or did. This past Sunday's cook, despite my attempts at securely lining the pan with HD foil, resulted in a baked on foil/crud mixture that is positively repulsive.

So, I'm gonna convert the WSM water pan to sand.

Disclaimer: Note that I am of the engineering/science type and therefore am inherently lazy, hence the extreme displeasure at having to clean a water pan.

[kcquer]

How much trouble do y'all go thru to "clean" a waterpan? For me "cleaning" the waterpan consists of dumping the water, while letting the congealed fat stay in the pan, which after dumping the water goes in the trash with the ashes. After emptying a quick rinse with hotwater to get rid of the last of the fat does it. Back in the cooker until next time.

[MrSmoker]

Do you change the sand everytime you cook?

[brdbbq]

Do you change the sand everytime you cook?

Not just a few times it will get hard as my nevermind, it will get hard over a period of time. Used samnd in the GAS smoker back to water in the WSM. Unlike Racer the old enginner I'm just a old technician so lazy mod has not kicked in all the way yet. Besides I moved enough times that I have a house with a sink in the garage, it's handy.

[Brauma]

Well, how the fark does the farking quote thing farkin work?! I just spent 15 minutes (that I'll never get back) of my freakin life trying to quote wilkat98 and I'm sure its as easy as pie. I just couldnt make it go. (I hate these farking computers at times). That was 15 minutes that I could have spent pulling ticks off my choc lab. Which translates to: Anything is better than wasting time in front of a computer.


Anyway, my water pan has a hole in it sure enough. (see my thread in Q-talk titled "Fire Box vent mod" for pics of my rusted up unit)

Can you shoot me link to where I can buy the Brinkman pan? Although, I'm kinda liking my idea to install a teracotta bowl.

[Solidkick]

Now, let the battle begin!


I wondered if I opened the debate again........that's why I referred to the search function.......

Can you shoot me link to where I can buy the Brinkman pan? Although, I'm kinda liking my idea to install a teracotta bowl.


I think if you have a Lowes or HomeDepot close that you can get a replacement waterpan from them........
but if not..........
http://www.brinkmann.net/Shop/Detail.aspx?category=Outdoor+Cooking&subcategory=Outdoor+Cooking+Replacement+Parts&sku=114-0004-0&id=68

[icemn62]

How much trouble do y'all go thru to "clean" a waterpan? For me "cleaning" the waterpan consists of dumping the water, while letting the congealed fat stay in the pan, which after dumping the water goes in the trash with the ashes. After emptying a quick rinse with hotwater to get rid of the last of the fat does it. Back in the cooker until next time.

Exactly, these steps = EASY, I just dump the old water, rinse out the pan, line with more foil.

[Brauma]

Mr. Kick, thanks for the link. I'll check with my local Lowes and HD, but I dont think that Ive ever seen such a apparatus as a Bandera in any of them. So I doubt that they will carry parts - but it never hurts to ask. When my neighbor gave me this unit it was the first time I had ever laid eyes on one. I could see past all the rust and knew that was on to something here and I had to have it and resurect it.

[willkat98]

Heat sink, smeat shink.

I'm sick of this discussion.

Sand.
Desert.
Dry.
Arid.

Water.
Ocean.
Wet.
Moisture.

You do the math, the choice is obvious.

Don't need to be Mister Wizard to see that water is the key.

Anyone who says different, must use vaccuum dust in their spray bottle. Why spray if you don't want moisture?

I just don't get the sand logic. Fill the farking pan with cement. Thats a heat sink too.

[Brauma]

So, what if we wet the sand?

Like with coffee. Or coke? Yeah thats it. Thats the ticket.

Better yet - BEER!!!

I'm sorry, I like sand. Call me a beach bum - and you'd be right.

[racer_81]

Do you change the sand everytime you cook?

Never.

Line the pan with a few thicknesses of HD foil.

Fill with sand to about 1/2 inch of top.

Line top with several thickness of HD foil.

After each q session, lift off top layer of foil and toss.

Add more foil as appropriate.

The sand never gets wet, you have a heat sink and cleanup is easy.

[racer_81]

Heat sink, smeat shink.

I'm sick of this discussion.

Sand.
Desert.
Dry.
Arid.

Water.
Ocean.
Wet.
Moisture.

You do the math, the choice is obvious.

Don't need to be Mister Wizard to see that water is the key.

Anyone who says different, must use vaccuum dust in their spray bottle. Why spray if you don't want moisture?

I just don't get the sand logic. Fill the farking pan with cement. Thats a heat sink too.

Cement. There's an idea.

Bill - remember that here on the Guff Coast, it's farking humid.

Sunday was one of those 90/80 days, above 90F and above 80% RH.

Moisture was not a problem.

[willkat98]

The sand never gets wet, you have a heat sink and cleanup is easy.

Walk to fence.

Pour out water over back fence.

Yeah, that was hard.

Jesus H you guys make the cleanup process to be more than 15 seconds is friggin insane

[Wayne]

I fill my water pan with beans. I always thought that this was the proper way to fix baked beans with pork drippins. And cleanup is a snap. What does not get served up during the dinner is put on the floor for the dogs to lick up. In about 30 minutes the pan is spotless. You just have to remember to put the dogs out back for the next few days or until their skunk butt clears up.

[parrothead]

UNCLE!


Again, UNCLE!

[dapittboss]

I fill my water pan with beans. I always thought that this was the proper way to fix baked beans with pork drippins. And cleanup is a snap. What does not get served up during the dinner is put on the floor for the dogs to lick up. In about 30 minutes the pan is spotless. You just have to remember to put the dogs out back for the next few days or until their skunk butt clears up.

WHAT AN IDEA! Now that's something I gotta try.

[Trout_man22]

I love this every few months I need to go to another site and dispute the use of water (or sand) in the water pan. Of course will have to put Greg in to a hospital.

For those of you that don't know it, this topic comes up every two months. I just enjoy the fray.

Trout

[kcquer]

For those of you that don't know it, this topic comes up every two months. I just enjoy the fray.

And the topic is never, "Do you put sand or water in the sandpan". Pretty much solves the entire discussion as far as I'm concerned.

[brdbbq]

I just enjoy the fray.


:shock:

[racer_81]

Anybody seen Greg's uncle?

Greg's calling for him.

:-)

[brdbbq]

Anybody seen Greg's uncle?

Greg's calling for him.

:-)

He can share Bill's I hear he is a farker.

[kcquer]

He can share Bill's I hear he is a farker.

It's true, for those of you who have joined since the last revival of that thread...

http://www.bandera-brethren.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=822&highlight=****+eat

[dapittboss]

He can share Bill's I hear he is a farker.

It's true, for those of you who have joined since the last revival of that thread...

http://www.bandera-brethren.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=822&highlight=sh#t+eat

Man, that is some funny sh$t.

[BigAl]

Water in the "Water Pan" (why do you think the designers call it that)!
Sand in the "Sand Box"!
Fire in the "Fire Box"!
Smoke in the "Smoke Chamber"!
Crap in the "Bed Pan"!

Life is so simple when you figure it out! :wink:

[brdbbq]

why do you think the designers call it that)!

Setting on my hands

[BigAl]

why do you think the designers call it that)!

Setting on my hands

Figures. :!: :lol:

[Trout_man22]

Water in the "Water Pan" (why do you think the designers call it that)!
Sand in the "Sand Box"!
Fire in the "Fire Box"!
Smoke in the "Smoke Chamber"!
Crap in the "Bed Pan"!

Life is so simple when you figure it out! :wink:

You know whats so funny we'll re-live all of this in a few weeks.

[willkat98]

You know whats so funny we'll re-live all of this in a few weeks.

not me.

I'll quit.

[Mark]

why do you think the designers call it that)!

Setting on my hands

Figures. :!: :lol:

thumb-up-ass mod?

(just joking Brian)

Seriously though: some instructions should occur somewhere for newbies to try the forum's search function.

[parrothead]

not me.

I'll quit.


Me too.