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mjljr13
09-18-2011, 06:39 PM
Hey talk I haven't ever posted on here, but I've been on here searching for over a year. Now I need some help" I've Ben cooking kcbs for over a year now I haven't taken a class (but going to in the off season!) I use bovine bold on butt and brisket, use butchers honey on ribs and chicken. I'm despratly looking for a sauce now I've tried butchers competition sweet rub lotta bull and many others and they just haven't worked. Butchers has been the best. What do y'all think about blues hog for kcbs comps in chicken ribs and butt category? What would y'all suggest I've seen bub-ba-q has a sauce had anyone tried it? Ivknow he's got great brisket rub! Thanks all sorry for the lengthy post.

guntera
09-18-2011, 07:40 PM
Try Head Country if they have it near you.

bover
09-18-2011, 08:10 PM
Generally the sanctioning body doesn't have as much to do with your choices as the region you're cooking in. Since it seems you're primarily cooking KCBS competitions though, I'd recommend attending a CBJ class then judge a few contests in your area. Spend plenty of time picking the other judges' brains and making mental notes of what's working and what doesn't, then apply that knowledge to your recipes when you compete.

Southern Home Boy
09-18-2011, 08:13 PM
50/50 Blues Hog Original and Blues Hog Tennesee Red seem to be a pretty popular choice. Do be careful though: Talk in the judges tent is that that particular flavor profile may be falling out of fashion. It seems that the extraordinarily sweet sauces are not as popular as they were a year or two ago. At least that's what I've been hearing in the tent.

mjljr13
09-18-2011, 08:32 PM
Thanks for the replies. I know more ppl will chime in. My problem with the judging is........I wanna compete :-) but will definitely do that.......judge.....ask.....LISTEN

Rookie'48
09-18-2011, 08:42 PM
I agree with Josh ^^^^^ about judging a few comps. But then again, I think that judges should cook every once in a while, too.

Mooner
09-18-2011, 10:16 PM
50/50 Blues Hog Original and Blues Hog Tennesee Red seem to be a pretty popular choice. Do be careful though: Talk in the judges tent is that that particular flavor profile may be falling out of fashion. It seems that the extraordinarily sweet sauces are not as popular as they were a year or two ago. At least that's what I've been hearing in the tent.


This may be coming to fruition. I have been hearing this as well. With everyone going to 50/50 blues hog & tenn red this type of flavor profile may be getting old.

Judges are just starting to get sick of eating it. May be a good time to switch it up. :boxing:

jbrink01
09-19-2011, 06:33 AM
I talked with a judge Saturday after St. Peters who was complaining about the proliferation of "Blues Hog Chicken", but felt that was changing some........

Lake Dogs
09-19-2011, 06:45 AM
Thanks for the replies. I know more ppl will chime in. My problem with the judging is........I wanna compete :-) but will definitely do that.......judge.....ask.....LISTEN

For me it was like the saying "a picture is worth a thousand words". Seeing what comes across the table and what worked as well as what doesn't was GOLD.

I dont use your specific rubs. However, I do suggest doing what we did when we were trying to decide which sauces goes with what. I cooked my competition pork and beef, and we had a sauce tasting party (with 12 of us there). I made 15 or 16 base sauces, some over-the-counter, others were recipes. For giggles we took bets as to who thought what would go best with the barbecue. Turns out we all lost. The best tasting sauce didnt work well with our rubs/injections at all; it conflicted with the spices and it was a little overpowering. At the end we narrowed it down to 4 sauces (amongst the 12 of us), and then we began mixing and matching because what one sauce lacked another had, etc. Ends up we now use a combination of 3 sauces, and all 12 of us agreed it was the best.

I suggest doing something similar. Have a sauce party and try LOTS of them. You'll be surprised as to what works and what doesn't work.

QueNivorous
09-19-2011, 07:17 AM
Many teams use Blues Hog Original, Blues Hog Tennessee Red, Head Country, and the new Blues Hog. I have heard both that Judges love it and that they are getting tired of it. Maybe we can get a few certified judges to give us their sauce opinions.

Sledneck
09-19-2011, 08:18 AM
Slabs.com sauce for chicken is great

Bigmista
09-19-2011, 11:48 AM
Slabs.com sauce for chicken is great

What if you want to do better than 13th place?:twisted:

rookiedad
09-19-2011, 12:36 PM
What if you want to do better than 13th place?:twisted:

OUCH!! but really though, the proliferation of teams using blues hog, so much so that judges are getting tired of it, to me show a problem on both sides of the fence. perhaps judges would not be getting tired of it had they not picked it for wins so many times that a majority of teams use it trying to achieve that result. teams using blues hog just trying to get wins, are cooking to please a judge and not cooking what THEY feel is best. i think what LAKE DOGS said was the best advice. cook what you feel is best for your BBQ! if everyone did this you would not have an over abundance of blues hog in the tent. IMHO

Sledneck
09-19-2011, 01:31 PM
What if you want to do better than 13th place?:twisted:

Why would anybody want to do that? 13th place chicken paid out 1300 at the battle of the brethren last month:becky:

Fat Freddy
09-19-2011, 02:03 PM
I am using different variations of Blues Hog but will be looking to try something different next year. Currently on Chicken I use original Blues Hog thinned with pineapple juice, ribs original Blues Hog thinned with apple juice and pork I use original and Tennessee Red.

At my last contest, for peoples choice, I put several different sauces for people to put on the meat and by a HUGE margin the new Blues Hog Smokey Mountain was used and asked about. Since this was just adding to the already served meat flavors may be different for my sauced comp meat but this one was so popular I feel I have to give it a shot.

Sledneck
09-19-2011, 04:18 PM
I am using different variations of Blues Hog but will be looking to try something different next year. Currently on Chicken I use original Blues Hog thinned with pineapple juice, ribs original Blues Hog thinned with apple juice and pork I use original and Tennessee Red.

At my last contest, for peoples choice, I put several different sauces for people to put on the meat and by a HUGE margin the new Blues Hog Smokey Mountain was used and asked about. Since this was just adding to the already served meat flavors may be different for my sauced comp meat but this one was so popular I feel I have to give it a shot.

I heard from a few that the new bh tastes like bh original with head country mixed in. What say you?

Fat Freddy
09-19-2011, 05:54 PM
I heard from a few that the new bh tastes like bh original with head country mixed in. What say you?

I have never tried Head Country before but after reading your reply I looked it up and there are a few places where I can buy it. So I am going to have to get some and try it and combine the two then get back with you

Fat Freddy
09-19-2011, 05:58 PM
I just ordered all 3 HC as well as some more BH Smokey Mountain. Iexpect it to be in end of this week beginning of next.

PimpSmoke
09-19-2011, 06:07 PM
I have struggled with this in every comp I have done. I usually make all my own rubs and sauces, and have recently used commercial rubs and thought it was for me. The last time I did chitty scores I told my teammate (my wife) I was going to enter a contest and do EVERY category with smoking guns hot rub with muscovado sugar and blues hog for sauce, just to see what happens. And I HATE blues hog, just personal preference.

I have gotten calls for my stuff, but I can't help but doubt myself, because I thought I could do better. This thread may get me back on track.

mjljr13
09-19-2011, 07:32 PM
Wow thanks all for the responses it seems that a good many ppl is changing or sick of bh. Well I have two more comps this year, so I guess have a sauce party (as suggsted) thanks all!

Scottie
09-19-2011, 08:25 PM
I heard from a few that the new bh tastes like bh original with head country mixed in. What say you?


I know it's award winning....

mobow
09-19-2011, 08:48 PM
i believe blues hog has set the standard by which all other sauces are judged

mwert
09-19-2011, 08:50 PM
I've tried BH and HC and thought they were OK at best. The only reason I could see using BH would be to have that nice "sheen" on chicken and ribs.
When I first started looking for a sauce, I simply asked everyone what there favorite BBQ joint was. There was a common one among all, so I based a recipe off that joint and made rubs to bridge the meat to the sauce.