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Bigmista
04-09-2005, 10:43 AM
Went to the store this morning and in the butcher's case, they had some nice looking spares for $1.39/#. Picked up a coupla slabs and had the butcher do a St. louis cut. Course I had to explain what that was.
Anyway. that is a great price here in Cali. How does it compare around the country?
Solidkick
04-09-2005, 11:31 AM
Local grocer had them 2 per pack, cryopacked, frozen, for that price.
I think Sam's is still somewhere around 2.27 a lb. for spares.
nmayeux
04-09-2005, 04:34 PM
Ok, silly question time... What is a St. Louis cut?
Noah
Bigmista
04-09-2005, 04:46 PM
From Ribman.com:
St. Louis Style Ribs
St. Louis Style ribs are cut from the spare rib and are prepared by removing the brisket bone parallel to the rib side, exposing cartilage on the brisket bone side. Skirt meat can be removes. If left on, the outside edge of the skirt should be trimmed.
I'll see if I can find a pic.
Solidkick
04-09-2005, 04:48 PM
Let me hook you up with a link that will explain some different cuts and kinds of ribs:
http://www.virtualweberbullet.com/ribselect1.html#slab
icemn62
04-09-2005, 04:49 PM
Which store Bigmista? You are not that far from me, and it is worth the drive.
Bigmista
04-09-2005, 04:51 PM
Go here for different pics of rib cuts. Including riblets (Button ribs):
http://www.hormel.com/templates/knowledge/knowledge.asp?catitemid=34&id=308
You can cook the whole rib slab with no problems. Then cut the ribs apart - some people (Phil, you know who you are!) can't deal with the cartiledge and such. This is good eats - I cooked about 5# of "trimmings" the other day and they were great - but you do have to deal with the "knuckles" and bones.
St. Louis cut removes all these "riblets" - that's why Smithfield gets an additional $.50-$1.00 per pound for their St. Louis cut ribs - charge you more for less meat!
Buy some cryvac ribs from Sam's, Costco, GFS, Smart & Final - whatever - then remove the membrane from the back (that's another thread) and then feel for the 'joint' of the brisket piece at the "thick end" of the ribs. Run a sharp knife along the "knuckles" and voila' you'll have St. Louis cut ribs. If you miss a knuclke or two - who cares!!
This ain't rocket science! :D
Bigmista
04-09-2005, 05:05 PM
Which store Bigmista? You are not that far from me, and it is worth the drive.
Payless Food Markets. Check to see if there ius one in your area. The one over here is on Van Ness and Rosecrans.
There's also one on 57th & Western and one at 4519 W. Pico Blvd in L.A.
biggyboy
04-09-2005, 05:45 PM
Here in the land of the Beaver and 5-7% beer,
St louis cut is the only way I have seen/bought them.
At Sams Club the Part that is cut off is included in the pack.
They hide them under the nice looking St louis in the styro trays. :twisted:
nmayeux
04-09-2005, 05:54 PM
Thanks guys, but the St. Louis style looks awfully close to "baby back" ribs. Is there a difference?
Noah
Thanks guys, but the St. Louis style looks awfully close to "baby back" ribs. Is there a difference?
Noah
Oh ****!
Dude;
The are completely different cuts.
The spares and "St. Louis" cuts are real ribs - from the part of the pig you would expect to get ribs from.
The baby-back or more politically correct Loin Back ribs are from higher up - they are smaller and trimmed beyond belief before you get them. Hecne the $3.49 per pound more $$ for less meat!! :D
St. Louis cuts are from real ribs.
Baby Back/Loin Backs are -- well -- popular and expensive. I cook almost exclusively spares and cut my own St. Louis cuts.
Phil and the northeast crowd (pussies) prefer the Bobby Flay and Emeril baby backs! :twisted:
Back on topic: they are different cuts. Ribs are cheaper. BB or Loinbacks are currently En Vogue so cook whatever you wish.
Real ribs: 3-2-1 (I usually cook them 3-2 and eat!!)
Chi chi **** ribs: 2-2 (maybe) They'll stil fall off the bone.
Disclaimer: Just my $.02 worth - the Yankee farks will disagree but ****, who ever listened to a farking Yankee anyway? :twisted:
nmayeux
04-09-2005, 06:13 PM
Thanks guys, but the St. Louis style looks awfully close to "baby back" ribs. Is there a difference?
Noah
Oh sh#t!
Dude;
The are completely different cuts.
The spares and "St. Louis" cuts are real ribs - from the part of the pig you would expect to get ribs from.
The baby-back or more politically correct Loin Back ribs are from higher up - they are smaller and trimmed beyond belief before you get them. Hecne the $3.49 per pound more $$ for less meat!! :D
St. Louis cuts are from real ribs.
Baby Back/Loin Backs are -- well -- popular and expensive. I cook almost exclusively spares and cut my own St. Louis cuts.
Phil and the northeast crowd (pussies) prefer the Bobby Flay and Emeril baby backs! :twisted:
Back on topic: they are different cuts. Ribs are cheaper. BB or Loinbacks are currently En Vogue so cook whatever you wish.
Real ribs: 3-2-1 (I usually cook them 3-2 and eat!!)
Chi chi sh#t ribs: 2-2 (maybe) They'll stil fall off the bone.
Disclaimer: Just my $.02 worth - the Yankee farks will disagree but sh#t, who ever listened to a farking Yankee anyway? :twisted:
I have been buying spares from BJ's and they have always been good. I guess that it is the greenhorn in me that assumed that bbs were cut down spares. It seems that the St. Louis cut is what I've been after all along. Also, I've got to watch my step as I got schooled by one of them Yankees last night!!!
Thanks,
Noah
I got schooled by one of them Yankees last night!!!
No ****! :D
My daddy was from Tift County (Cordele/Tifton) so he taught me right! :D
Baby back are good but expensive (ON TOPIC)
Spares/St.Louis cut are good and cheaper (ON TOPIC(
Whatever floats your boat!! :D
Just in case anyone gets their knickers in a knot: I'm about 3 sheet to the wind so I'm claiming the willkat98 defense -- it ain't JD but I'm not responsible if I call you an asshole tonight!! :D :D :D :D
Yankees are the exception - fark the whole bunch of ya! :D
KS/MO: border assholes - figure it out! :mrgreen:
**At least I haven't claimed: "The South (note the capital letter) shall rise again!" :twisted: ***
Ribs are wonderful whether babyback/loinback or spare ribs. Country style are not really ribs but are good, too. (ON TOPIC!)
nmayeux
04-09-2005, 06:24 PM
David,
It seems that we have a little in common. My dad used to fly gliders in Cordele, and my stepdad is from Alapaha County. I try to spend a little time each year hunting with my stepdad outside of Douglas, and this is where I learned to cook a mean pot of boiled p-nuts. Also, my wife often refers to me as D.F., as well as J.A., A.H., etc....
:D
My "kin" in that area are Walkers. They used to sharecrop in the area: cotton, tobacco, tomatoes, etc. No ****! I'm the son of the son of a south Georgia sharecropper!!
I'm sure I've got cousins (2nd, once removed and all that crap) in the area!!
Historical note: Sherman was a farking arsonist! :twisted:
My uncle used to raise a lot of hogs - and we ate home grown pork while visiting. RIBS were a special treat. (ON TOPIC!) :D
nmayeux
04-09-2005, 06:34 PM
My stepdad's family are Harpers, and I have met several Walkers. On a different note... I was under the impression that if you lived north of I-10, you are a Yankee!!
Noah
Close! :D But then I couldn't associate with my cooking partner - he lives in Marianna and unfortunately that's north of I-10. :D
GA, NC, SC, VA all get free passes. TX is in a class of it's own. AL, LA, MS all have true believers on both sides of I-10. MS/KS who knows what's going on there? MD is too close to "the district" and so is suspect! TN has a decent football and basketball team - but they also had Al Gore as a "favorite son" :twisted:
Otherwise it's a toss up.
***Note: I know I'm going to get flamed - but have at it -- this has been FUN and I'm hammered!! **** :D :D :D
Ribs, however, have universal appeal and the choice between babyback/loinback and spare ribs is purely a personal decision (ON TOPIC) :D
Bigmista
04-09-2005, 07:23 PM
Sounds liek a plan. Think I'll fix me a drink too.
Dave, what price are you getting for ribs in the Dirty South?
Too farkin' much! :D
Spares were $2.87 the other day - I don't even look at babybacks - $3.40-ish last time I looked - and this was at Sam's in the cryovac.
BrooklynQ
04-09-2005, 07:33 PM
My stepdad's family are Harpers, and I have met several Walkers. On a different note... I was under the impression that if you lived north of I-10, you are a Yankee!!
Noah
Close! :D But then I couldn't associate with my cooking partner - he lives in Marianna and unfortunately that's north of I-10. :D
GA, NC, SC, VA all get free passes. TX is in a class of it's own. AL, LA, MS all have true believers on both sides of I-10. MS/KS who knows what's going on there? MD is too close to "the district" and so is suspect! TN has a decent football and basketball team - but they also had Al Gore as a "favorite son" :twisted:
Otherwise it's a toss up.
***Note: I know I'm going to get flamed - but have at it -- this has been FUN and I'm hammered!! **** :D :D :D
Boys, Boys, Boys. A little cheap wine and the truth pours out. Such Yankee envy. But as the world knows (read that NY) either you are a New Yorker or you are.... Well, I'm too polite to say. :D
Let me put it in way that even someone from Brooklyn can understand:
Blow it out your ass! :twisted:
I will, however, defend to the death your right to choose babyback/loinback ribs over spare ribs (ON TOPIC) :twisted:
BrooklynQ
04-09-2005, 07:37 PM
LMAO!
Dates states admitted to the Union:
GA Jan 2, 1788
MD Apr 28, 1788 (suspect they aren't really southern but the are south of the Mason-Dixon Line.
SC May 23, 1788
VA Jun 25, 1788
And FINALLY: NY Jun 26, 1788
Now granted DE was #1 in at Dec 7, 1787 (historical date for another reason, too)
and FL didn't show up until Mar 3, 1845 but then we had to wait for all the asshole snowbirds from up north to show up!! :D
I will admit to seeing a lot of babyback/loinback ribs in the national "chain" food emporeums -- however, the local ribs joints have only spare ribs and they are often trimmed into St. Louis cut. (ON TOPIC)
Overall: NY was 11th of the original 13 colonies. Probably had to wait on Hillary to vote! :twisted:
However, since Hillary spent at least part of her life in Arkansas and Bill was known to enjoy barbeque I'll be the former first lady and the junior senator from NY has had a rib or two - I will not hazard a guess as to whether her preference is babyback/loinback or spare ribs/st. louis cut!!
(ON TOPIC!) :D
Bigmista
04-09-2005, 08:13 PM
And they bought NY from the Indians for $1.39/#.
B.O.T.
Solidkick
04-09-2005, 08:14 PM
LOL.........I know I should moderate this, but I can't see the monitor for the tears in my eyes............
We'll clean this up another time..........DF, I think you've had a good time.......and you did warn us.........(I'm still shaking my head and laughing)
roknrandy
04-09-2005, 08:18 PM
Spares in the Free pass state of Virginia (the southwest corner) goes for 2.99 # and on sale sometimes for 2.49#
Monitor what? :D
Go read my posts again - each and every one is guaranteed to be on topic!! :twisted:
jgh1204
04-09-2005, 08:20 PM
This thread makes me wonder what the DF stands for? Drunk Farker? :)
$1.39/lb, I wish. Best I can find down here is $1.88/lb for frozen spares from Walmart.
Watch it junior. :D
Don't bring a knife to a gunfight!
It's David Frank Little - You writing a book? :twisted:
If you want some really good ribs find a local 4-H club or FFA chapter and work a deal with one of the students. (ON TOPIC!)
There's a good chance I'm stone sober! :D
Bigmista
04-09-2005, 08:27 PM
There's also a good chance you're walking on water.
Bigmista
04-09-2005, 08:28 PM
Oh...
Walking on water eating $1.39/# ribs.
B.O.T.
Bigmista
04-09-2005, 09:50 PM
Congrats on 3200.
Chatty farker!
biggyboy
04-10-2005, 05:26 AM
At our local store,backs $7.70 a # I just keep on walking.
BigAl
04-10-2005, 09:51 AM
Well, if BS was $1.39/#, this thread would be close to $1,000,000.00
Jorge
04-10-2005, 10:06 AM
This is a classic. I'll pay for the wine next time you are unsupervised and have the time to post DF! Thanks for the quality reading! :D
Bigmista
04-11-2005, 05:32 PM
Here are a coupla pics of the ribs. I have a question though. I probably won't cook these until at least Saturday so I am going to wrap them in plastic and then foil and put them in the freezer. My question is do you think I should rub them now or wait until I thaw them out to cook them?
Let me know.
You can season them now but go lightly on the salt - unless you really like salt. :D
Bigmista
04-11-2005, 06:28 PM
Thanks! Poo-bah called and said the same thing.
.... On a different note... I was under the impression that if you lived north of I-10, you are a Yankee!!
Noah
I have always used this line as well, although I extend it all the way west where I live. I am 3 miles south of it. Oh, there was a Civil War battle in my state, one of the westernmost, if not the farthest west. A 7 vs. 5 kinda thing. I can't remember who won that one. I think both sides gave up and went for a beer. I better look the details on this one up.
Mista, how are the ribs coming? I was gonna suggest the early rub nbut light salt thing too. <-----ON TOPIC
SO I found this on the net. I can not vouch for it's veracity. The battle I was referring to was The Battle of Picacho Peak, the location of which can be seen from my back porch 45 miles off in the distance or so. Apparently there was another earlier battle near Phoenix I have seen mentioned elsewhere. No real reason for this post, just a history lesson I suppose......
"Arizona's Civil War story is a colorful one. Colonel John R. Baylor of the Confederate States of America defeated Union troops in Arizona and New Mexico in March 1861. Arizona became a Confederate Territory when it was annexed by President Jefferson Davis. Baylor was later named governor in January 1862. He set up a territorial government for the Confederacy with its own constitution. It was not until General Carelton and the California Volunteers recaptured Tucson in June 1862 and drove out Confederate forces was Arizona under Union control. Arizona became a territory under the Union flag February 26 1863. The Battle of Picacho Pass, "the westernmost conflict of the Civil War", was fought on April 15, 1862. It took place between Tucson and Phoenix near Picacho Peak. (If you go on the I-10 from Phoenix to Tucson, you will pass the Picacho Peak mountains and see an exit to see the park.) "
Back on topic, As I recollect, spares here are regularly above 4 bucks a pound, often on sale for around 2. $1.39 is more like on sale pork shoulder price.
Bigmista
04-11-2005, 07:04 PM
I just pulled off the membrane and wrapped them in plastic and foil and put them in the freezer. Smae for the knuckle and ribtips they cut off for the St. Louis cut.
And I have always lived South of the 10 Freeway too. South bay L.A. an Galveston, TX.
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