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Solidkick
04-03-2005, 09:08 PM
The time of our first competition of 2005 is almost upon us. It's about a four hour drive for us, we're talking about scaling down some, Time will tell if we actually decide on what we need and don't need to take and not take as many vehicles. Pretty good prize money, ought to draw some pretty big hitters. Hope we don't get the crap beat out of us! LOL

Here's a link if you want to check out the competition:

http://www.charlestonmobbq.com/index.htm

Wish us luck, we'll sure give it our best shot!

chad
04-03-2005, 09:15 PM
Best of luck!

The_Kapn
04-03-2005, 09:18 PM
BRO KICK--
Goes without saying--Knock'em dead :lol:

Sounds like a first class event, even with RV hookups (my kinda deal)!
Best event web site I have seen!

Bet this is gonna draw some real talent :P , not the least of which is y'all :lol:
Who are the team members gonna be?????

Keep us posted (DF and I are going through temporary withdrawals and need a fix) :lol: :lol:

TIM

parrothead
04-04-2005, 01:15 AM
Luck!

BrooklynQ
04-04-2005, 07:37 AM
Good Luck guys.

spicewine
04-04-2005, 08:26 AM
I love running with the Big Dogs. It shows you exactly where you stand and inspires you to be the best you can be. Just have fun and don't over analize things. You all will do well. Best of luck to you all.

jt
04-04-2005, 09:13 AM
Good Luck, guys. You're gonna do well.

Solidkick
04-04-2005, 06:33 PM
Who are the team members gonna be?????

It'll be BellyBro, Belly BrotherII, and myself. BBII's son is going also to help haul equipment, and my wife is going along to help BellyBro with the turn in boxes. They did such a great job at out first competition that we hate to split them 2 up. This is supposed to be such a beautiful place that we're sorta looking at this as a mini vacation along with a cookoff. I'm sure I'll get too damn serious once we get there!! I just hope we finish in the top 1/3, anything better will be icing on the cake!!

smokincracker
04-04-2005, 07:35 PM
good luck bros
kick ass

kcquer
04-04-2005, 10:08 PM
G, J, & D, Go open up a can o' Brethren whup ass on 'em!!

jminion
04-04-2005, 11:06 PM
Say hello to Lynn and Dot for me. Good luck!

parrothead
04-05-2005, 07:47 AM
The title of this thread sounds like either a porn movie, or a dance instruction video.

jt
04-05-2005, 08:02 AM
The title of this thread sounds like either a porn movie, or a dance instruction video.
I will refer you to the Photos section. Are either of those something you'd want to see with these guys?

Bellybro
04-05-2005, 12:48 PM
Just have fun and don't over analize things


Great advice!

Bellybro
04-08-2005, 11:07 AM
Here is the list of competitors.

Team Name Pit Boss
Smokin'Triggers Johnny Trigg
Lotta Bull BBQ Mike Davis
Bar B- Quau Beth Woznaik
Smokers Wild Don Will
Chances Are Buddy Richison
Wild Bunch Butt Burners John Swift
Butt Rub Byron Chism
Bad To The Bone Too Robert Satterfield
Lloyd's Lunchroom Dale Cloud
Let's Kick Some Ash Bruce Ring
Ulcer Acres Randy Twyford
Rib & Bibs Dave Stamper
Bibs & Ribs Phil Hon
J-Mack Cookers Mike Ford
Music City Pig Pals Lee McWright
Belly Brothers John Berkbeugler
Hit & Miss Denis Hamlich
J.C.'s Pit Crew J.C. Gibson
Myrtle's Place Backalley Tommy Sliger
Pork Of The North Larry Spagnuolo
Smokin Vets Jack Gholson
MoonSwiners Chad Hayden
Penny Street Prokers Mike Klipfel
High Point Drifters Gary Halmich
Smokey Joel & Bar-B-Que Joel Schwabe
Nordenia Grillfeest Ron Medlin
F.M. Myers F.M. Myers
J.R.'s Smokers Randy Phillips
K.R.E. Keith Engstrom
Pepperitaville Connie Trobaugh
Wizzards of 'Que Fred Smith
Good Grief BBQ Matt Grief
Fat Boys Kathy Meunier
Baron of BBQ Paul Kirk
Smokin Bogans Clete Bogan
Wild West BBQ Ryan David
Three Men & A Grill Kevin Ammon
Pigs In The Pokie Tony Smith
Southern Smokers Mark Lamunion
Kinney's Country Cookers Kinney Markle
Boys From Tornado Alley Donny Teel
Team Top Chick Ron Montgomery
Smokin' T's Troy Heitmeyer
Carbondale Pork Dist Roberta Reeves
Sikeston F.O. Rib Men Phillip Boyer
Hat Creek Cattle CO. James Rich
S.E.M.O. Shriners Louie Griffin
Dr. Chuckies M.D. BBQ Chuck Henk
General Porktitioners Chris Gafford
Governor's BBQ Gary Roberts
Bubba's TN Smokers Wayne Abrams
Haulin Butt Ken Strop
Blues Hog Cooker Bill Arnold
Piggin N Grinnin Darrell Weems
Whoop-De-Que Troy Black
QU Smokin' Krewe Scott McGlinchy
Da-Nite BBQ Team Jan Haury
BBQr's Delight Candy Weaver
Tom & Josh Orgasmic Stephanie Wislon
Wheel House BBQ Phil Veid
Late Night Whiskey John Hale
Blind Dog's Outlaw BBQ Drew Grega
Smokin' Joes Joe Fritz

chad
04-08-2005, 11:21 AM
Damn, picked a little, tiny, contest didn't ya! :D

Give 'em hell. :mrgreen:

Solidkick
04-08-2005, 04:50 PM
Damn, picked a little, tiny, contest didn't ya! :D

Give 'em hell. :mrgreen:

I just threw up looking at that group of competitors!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

See, I'm still green..........

spicewine
04-08-2005, 05:27 PM
You definately have some Head Hunters out there!!!! Damn I wish I was going!!! I love to take on these guys!!! You will do well if you just keep your head into what you do best and above all-----HAVE SOME FUN AND KICK SOME ARSE.

GOOD LUCK MOFO'S-----BRING HOME THE BACON!!!

The_Kapn
04-08-2005, 05:55 PM
WOW--"Running with the big dogs" :wink:
I bet ya put a bunch of them on the trailer :!:
TIM

ps--take pics :lol:

icemn62
04-08-2005, 06:06 PM
Good luck BROS.

MrSmoker
04-08-2005, 06:25 PM
I think them Boy's got ball's,what do think Bill :?:

BBQchef33
04-08-2005, 06:31 PM
Tom & Josh
Music City
Smokin triggers
Lotta bull
B-B Quau
J-MacK(Me, DF and BQ) beat him :)

U got some stiff competition there.. U best be on top of your game that day. !!! Best of luck.!!! I thnk you may need shirts and a flag!!!

Solidkick
04-09-2005, 06:42 PM
Ummm.......Phil.........did you miss Paul Kirk's, Byron (Butt Rub) Chism's names and The Boys From Tornado Alley?

JMinion and Dr. BBQ, and Buzz cooked against a lot of these teams at the AR Invitational last year.

chad
04-09-2005, 07:21 PM
Yeah, there's a LOT of talent at this contest.

Above 1/2 and definately top 1/3 or 1/4 will be a good outing. But, I'm thinking you guys will do better than that. :D

Arlin_MacRae
04-10-2005, 08:09 AM
Smoke 'em, gents.

jminion
04-10-2005, 06:25 PM
Troy Black and Bill Arnold need to be on that list also, PaulKirk hasn't been a factor for a number of years.

BellyBrotherII
04-11-2005, 06:38 AM
Put togeather our game plan over the weekend, got the wood all ready for the size that Kick wants. We are just about ready to go. I told kick we have something those guys don't have. We have the Brethren and all their knowledge going with us. "Knowledge is Power" or in this case "Smokin Brothren" Thanks guys & Gals for the support, we will have an update when we get back with the pics. Sure hope Phil sends a flag, hats and approns.

slat
04-11-2005, 10:13 PM
I'll see you all there. That's not far from my neck of the woods. Good luck. If you need fuel for the vehicles take exit 99, that'll be the Cape Girardeau/Jackson exit, go right to Jackson the are a couple of places about 2 miles down the road with cheap fuel. Been running less than $2 a gallon. What day you heading down? Looking forward to meeting some of the Brethren.

Bellybro
04-12-2005, 12:40 PM
Slat,

We are heading down on Thursday evening. Planning on leaving Columbia around 6:00 if all goes well.
That way we can sleep in on Friday morning and relax all day before we have to get busy tending the fire all night!!!

Hope to see you there!

Solidkick
04-12-2005, 05:34 PM
That way we can sleep in on Friday morning and relax all day before we have to get busy tending the fire all night!!!


I ain't sleepin' now!! Relax? What's that! LOL I'm wound up tighter than an 8 day clock!!!!!!!!
Seriously, I'm in pretty good shape......I think about it non stop, have run several hundred senerios through my head.......but I'm thinking we're going to do good and have a great time!!

Brother Slat.......look forward to spending some time with ya!!

chad
04-12-2005, 06:52 PM
That way we can sleep in on Friday morning and relax all day before we have to get busy tending the fire all night!!!


I ain't sleepin' now!! Relax? What's that! LOL I'm wound up tighter than an 8 day clock!!!!!!!!
Seriously, I'm in pretty good shape......I think about it non stop, have run several hundred senerios through my head.......but I'm thinking we're going to do good and have a great time!!

Brother Slat.......look forward to spending some time with ya!!

You just need to compete more!! Tim and I actually get some sleep now!! After getting out a few times you'll know who brings what, who does what, whoes in charge of the timing, etc. etc. etc.

That's one great advantage to having a retired aviator as a partner - he ain't nothing if not organized!! :D

The_Kapn
04-12-2005, 07:57 PM
You just need to compete more!! Tim and I actually get some sleep now!! After getting out a few times you'll know who brings what, who does what, whoes in charge of the timing, etc. etc. etc.

That's one great advantage to having a retired aviator as a partner - he ain't nothing if not organized!!
DF is right on here.
First several events--stress and panic.
Now--we know who does what and have confidence in each other.
We have discovered that we are equally capapble of screwing it up :oops:
So, we just get 3 hours (or what-ever) the schedule shows for sleep and don't stress about it anymore :lol:
We had the pleasure of cooking next to HomeBBQ at Sebring in Jan. Kevin and Clara seem to do the same thing. He sleeps, she minds the fire--then she sleeps and he takes over. With the way they win--works for me :lol: :lol: :lol:

Now, in the last days leading up--Yeah--total stress Mod--for sure :twisted:
But, it goes away at the event.

Just takes a plan and the abiliity to relax and rest.

Fun-Fun-Fun--once we figured it out :lol:

TIM

slat
04-12-2005, 09:18 PM
Gas at $1.969 in Jackson. Let you guys know what it is again Thur. morning.

Bellybro
04-14-2005, 08:29 AM
Well the shopping is completed.

The coolers are packed in the shop with care.
Hoping we can all get off early and get the fark out of here!

We are all getting pretty fired up. Numerous phone calls back and forth last night to check on last minute things,

Momma Kick is getting her dessert ready for her first contest. And we will cook fish on Friday night for the anything butt contest.

Then the smoking begins!!!!!!!

We hope to be on the road by 6:00 pm which should put us down in there I'm guessing 10:30 or 11:00 pm.

Belly 2 has got the Spicewine smoke all waxed up and she looks like new!!!
Decided to put some tail lights on her. Ii was a little nervous going through St. Louis without lights and turn signals.

B2 is pulling the 5th wheel and I have the smoker, and kick will be in the pace car!

Thanks to everyone for their support. Now we gotta go kick some arse!

Jorge
04-14-2005, 08:35 AM
Belly 2 has got the Spicewine smoke all waxed up and she looks like new!!!
Decided to put some tail lights on her. Ii was a little nervous going through St. Louis without lights and turn signals.

B2 is pulling the 5th wheel and I have the smoker, and kick will be in the pace car!

Thanks to everyone for their support. Now we gotta go kick some arse!

Somehow I'm picturing a scene from Smokey and the Bandit. Best of luck and have a blast!

http://users.ev1.net/~atilla/cw_mccall_convoy.mp3

jt
04-14-2005, 08:37 AM
I think that was a good call on the lights. I wouldn't want to pull it without 'em either.

Good luck boys! Oh, and good luck to T as well! :D

jt
04-14-2005, 09:31 AM
Belly 2 has got the Spicewine smoke all waxed up and she looks like new!!!
Decided to put some tail lights on her. Ii was a little nervous going through St. Louis without lights and turn signals.

B2 is pulling the 5th wheel and I have the smoker, and kick will be in the pace car!

Thanks to everyone for their support. Now we gotta go kick some arse!

Somehow I'm picturing a scene from Smokey and the Bandit. Best of luck and have a blast!
Hmmmm....Kick & Mrs. Kick in the pace car....that Chevy have T-tops? :twisted:

Solidkick
04-14-2005, 12:25 PM
Hmmmm....Kick & Mrs. Kick in the pace car....that Chevy have T-tops?


Ummmm......with as much stuff as Mrs. K settin' in the floor to be loaded for the trip, it may be a convertible before the day is over, gotta get it all in someway!!

Brothers, the MoFo Chapter's Belly Brothers are proud to be a part of this website and will do our best to be a fine representation of who and what we are.

chad
04-16-2005, 08:59 PM
OK. It's 10pm eastern - where the heck are some results? :D

kcquer
04-17-2005, 01:13 PM
OK. It's 10pm eastern - where the heck are some results?

It's now 24 hrs since last turn in, I reiterate, where the heck are some results?

Solidkick
04-17-2005, 04:14 PM
OK. It's 10pm eastern - where the heck are some results?

It's now 24 hrs since last turn in, I reiterate, where the heck are some results?

We're back.......give me some time to get my thoughts together, i'll post a little later, I goota post it from a word doc I started on the laptop on the way home........

Solidkick
04-17-2005, 06:22 PM
Belly Brothers Do Charleston

Running with the Big Dogs was a little tougher than we could have ever imagined. Though we were definitely on our “A Game” it didn’t prove to be enough. Timing of the turn ins and prep couldn’t have been better. Cooking to competition level standards was a different story. Not that we cooked bad food, we didn’t cook bland enough, or sweet enough. 63 of 64 teams showed up. Turns out that of the 63 teams there, 41 of the teams had won state or grand championships and/or lotto drawings to the AR Invitational in 2004. So if you take those teams out of the mix, we made top ten. We place 47th overall.
It seems 10,000-prize money brings out the cream of the crop, plus we learned for those that compete on a regular basis that this event had triple points for overall yearend KCBS champ.

First event, chicken. This was a great improvement from our last event. 20th place, top 1/3rd. We all figured this was good indication for pleasant things to come. In fact, we all felt we had a very good chance of hitting top 1/3rd or better in everything else. Then, the hammer fell!

Next event, ribs. Did everything to KCBS standards, nice smoke ring, slight tug at the bone, not too sweet……throw that theory out the window! Personal preference takes the place of what judges are taught in this category for sure. We were so excited about our ribs…………the judges weren’t………..63rd place. You talk about a shock…………turns out the judges like them to fall off the bone, cooked in honey and brown sugar during the wrapped portion of the 3-2-1, with a slight glaze of a sweet BBQ sauce just before turn in. We could have done that, had we known. In fact, we had fall off the bone ribs and elected not to turn them in because of the way we thought the judges would score them. What really hurt…………the guy next to us cooked everything except his chicken on Friday, wrapped it and coolered, then reheated it Saturday morning, his warmed up ribs beat us…. that was a bitter pill to swallow. Oh well, let’s move on… We can still bring it home with the butt and brisket.

Pork, I think 39th…still scratching our heads…….no way……it was almost as good as it gets………did it the same way as the BoCo fair, where we took a 3rd. Ha! Not the same playing field……..reality starting to sink in.

Brisket, gonna knock ‘em dead in this one for sure. Good smoke ring, good flavor, and very tender .27th place. This one really doesn’t make sense…….one judge gives us 9-9-9, the judge right next to this judge, 9-5-5.
What!! One says it’s perfect and one says it’s below average in tenderness and taste! Who trained these judges!!

Did we have fun, hell yes! Did we do a good job, we sure thought so. Are we ready to take on the name teams and big events, not quite. We made a few new friends, saw some old friends, but the “elite” on millionaire’s row, (most of the top names somehow seemed to be grouped together in the campground, thus the name) reminded me of the old high school clicks of the rich and spoiled, don’t bother me, type attitude people. After what I saw this weekend, I was disappointed with their actions. I can’t speak for my brothers, but it kind of left a bitter taste in my mouth about what KCBS is all about.

I think we'll stay local and leave the big fish alone for awhile.

Chad and Tim, we really gave it our best, it is hard to break into an established group. I applaude you for trying, just as we did. Maybe someday............

icemn62
04-17-2005, 06:33 PM
It sounds like you guys cooked quality Que, had a good time, and got a lesson in life. It is not what you know, If you know someone at the top. Did you get any pics? Seems that the judging is not quite as black and white as I thought. If you had turned in Que you make for home use, there would be trophies in your saga.

Remember, you got to cook, and had a good time. Met some new BBQ People.

Solidkick
04-17-2005, 06:44 PM
Yep, got a few pictures, will add later......I only slept 2 hours Thursday night due to being too excited, and 1.5 hours Friday night due to a sinus headache and my cooking shift. I just finished spending time with my grand daughters, which I needed, so i'm off to bed and will post more later, including pics. Many many more stories to be added by myself and the Bellys.
A special THANKS to Mike (BBII's cousin) for being an excellent pitbitch. Also spent time with Slat, good to meet him and visit.....more to follow, I need sleep!

chad
04-17-2005, 07:53 PM
:D Amazing what you learn while getting your ass kicked, isn't it? :D

Believe me, Tim and I understand completely!

Ice, it ain't who you know - it really is blind judging. You gotta pay your dues and learn what is expected at THAT contest. Regional preferences, local que, etc. all come into play. With this many teams you had a lot of judges - what one table scored has no connection with the next table.

But hey, if this was easy EVERYONE would be doing it! :D

Kick, you sound like Tim and me when we talk about the FBA!! :D We haven't figured it out - but we're much more at peace than we were last year. We've competed against a good number of the teams you saw. They do the FL circuit during the winter! :D We've been consistent but unfortunately our consistent is middle of the pack overall.

We're thinking about doing Dillard, GA, a KCBS contest, in August. It'll be way up in north GA, so the Carolina style of doing 'que will come into play. We'll be learning to cook in a another new area.

Kevin, HomeBBQ, went up and took GC last year and he's planning to defend - he'll have Clara with him this year so things should go pretty smooth. Tim and I are debating but will probably go if we can get the $$$ together.

This stuff is frustrating but like the Maryland Lottery used to say "You gotta play to win!"

Hang tough. Do a post mortem over the next few days. Try and be real objective - and that will be hard to do. Pony up the $$$ and try it again. :D

Chick'n Pig BBQ
04-17-2005, 07:54 PM
Glad you all made it back!!
Sounds like you all had fun and turned in realy good stuff. Don't be too hard on yourself, you all are great cookers.

I became a certified KCBS judge a couple of weeks ago and found out that as a judge you are taught to judge on how that 1 piece of meat tastes to you on its own merit and not be compared to any other . What I observed is that almost all the people who are judges are not cookers and have not read the KCBS rule book nor do they have any idea how its done.
At the class I attended it was very obvious that the majority of people really didn't understand what it was that was being asked of them. It seemed that thay could not get past comparing and judged too harshly on details that did not matter. You would not have believed the inconsistency on judging scores on the same pieces of meat?????? from 2 to 9

So I have decided that at Marshall (My first contest)I am going to turn in what I think tastes good to me and my family, following the KCBS rules and not what anyone else tries to tell me to turn in. After all who knows what the judges that day are going to like ( spicy,sweet or too tender) and also it makes a big difference on what the KCBS rep emphasized the most about how to judge that specific day before judging starts.

dxesmkr
04-17-2005, 08:48 PM
Hey Kick,
I wouldn't sweat it.The most important thing you had a good time.Its hard to be competitive against teams that do contests every weekend.They are gonna have a advantage.They do stay in a close group cause they see each other every weekend and some of them do swap tips back and forth to make them more competitive.The best way to think of it is like Nascar.The big boys that run every week will finish better than the guys that can only run a few races.Its just experience. There's no doubt in my mind ya'll turned in good product.
I've found that turning in too tender is a whole lot better than even a little tough.My turn in ribs are so sweet you couldn't sit down and enjoy a whole rack.You gotta hitem with the flavor cause the judges are gonna take one bite.I'm all over the place with pork so don't feel bad.Sauce is the key right now in KCBS.Really more of how good the sauce tastes vs the meat.
There are alot of inexperinced judges out there.I know exactly how you feel about the 9's then all of the sudden outta nowhere a "2". "Some " judges think its just a free bbq lunch and have no idea what a team goes through. I'm not bashing the judges(I'm a KCBS certified judge) I'm just giving my opinion from observations.Nothing makes me madder than hearing a judge say"everything we had tasted awful". I say BS to that.

I say keep gettin' in there with the big boys.Cause when you win its so much sweeter.

Willy T.
www.willytsbbq.com

slat
04-17-2005, 09:32 PM
Kick glad you and the Bellybro's made it home safe. It was great to meet you guys and hang out for a while. The hospitality was as good as it gets. I thought you guys had it going on, but it just didn't work out for you all. At least a great time was had by all.

BrooklynQ
04-17-2005, 09:40 PM
So I have decided that at Marshall (My first contest)I am going to turn in what I think tastes good to me and my family, following the KCBS rules and not what anyone else tries to tell me to turn in. After all who knows what the judges that day are going to like ( spicy,sweet or too tender) and also it makes a big difference on what the KCBS rep emphasized the most about how to judge that specific day before judging starts.

IMHO, I think you have it nailed. Submit what you think is best. Also, send a rep from your team to the judges meeting. Hear what questions are asked and how they're answered. KCBS rules allow teams to listen in at the meetings - so take advantage. even tho it would be toolate to change your cooking, it will give you some insight on how you scored.

Neil
04-18-2005, 03:57 AM
Thanks for sharing and congratulations on a great effort and having fun doing the Q.

BellyBrotherII
04-18-2005, 07:12 AM
We did have FUN!, We Did learn a LOT! But most of all just knowing you guys are behind us made it all better. SLAT it was a pleasure to meet you and we enjoyed your company. Brothers, Like Kick said it was some tough compatition and when your in the heat of it just keep smokin. I learned fix what is the best for that region. Politics are involved to some extent, we did see this with our owne eyes and heard it with our owne ears. So now that we understand how to play the game, we are going to do more practice games, (Local Contest) before we go after the big ones.

Here are a few pics and Kick will be posting more. Kick feel free to move these if I have them in the wrong place.

(Moderator's comment--I resized these. Was careful, but it they are not accurate nor right in any way, let me know. I will fix. Learning new tricks MOD :oops: TIM)

Solidkick
04-18-2005, 07:19 AM
Did I have my "game face" on in the second picture on Friday afternoon or WHAT! Now you know why I didn't sleep! I was intense! LOL


Damn, we're pretty! Shoulda got first place just because of our looks! :mrgreen:

spicewine
04-18-2005, 08:38 AM
IMO this is exactly what you all needed . One good swift reality check to keep your head in the game. You may not realize it right now, but this contest probably did more for you in a positive way than you think. This is what separates the Men from the Boys. Some teams will just give up after a contest like this while others will gain strength and knowledge and get back on that horse. I think you all will see a great change in your next contest. Maybe you can join us in Warsaw the 29th of this month.

Get back on your horse pilgrim.

Spice

The_Kapn
04-18-2005, 10:20 AM
BellyBros--
Reality Sucks--right :lol:

I read BRO KICK's post several times and kept getting flashbacks to Mobile in early March for Chad and I :twisted: :twisted:
When the "backyard" teams have 10 times the $$ invested in kookers and gear than you do--"uh-oh" :oops:
I am doing a long thread about judging Barnesville and all that I learned. When it is up--it will address some of your observations.

For now--let me just offer this.
Chad and I cook "Good" Que. Many times even "Great" Que. Sometimes we sneak in some "Crappy" Que just to see if anyone is looking (they are) :mrgreen:
But, until I started judging, I had not experienced "Championship" Que. For me-it just jumps off the table at you and screams "Here I am" :lol:
When ya play with the full time pros, they put out "Championship" Que week after week after week. And, they have been doing it for years :lol:
Hard act to follow :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Chad and I have found our "solace" by looking down the scoring sheet to see how many names we recognize that scored lower than us :lol: :lol: Gotta find comfort where you can.

Doing the judging thing has helped tremendously. Not just going to a class, but getting our hands dirty and getting to "pick the minds" of the other Judges we will be cooking for in the future.

Hang in there--it does take time, practice, patience, and "open mindedness" to break through!

TIM

Solidkick
04-18-2005, 07:46 PM
Mrs. Kick also entered the dessert competition on Friday evening. She got all 9s in presentation, but came up short in taste and tenderness. All the Bellys thought she had a winner for sure........She's not discouraged......she got some nice tips on how to improve the taste (ice cream) and she'll go after them again!

The_Kapn
04-18-2005, 08:00 PM
she got some nice tips on how to improve the taste (ice cream) and she'll go after them again!
More vanilla????????????
Help us out- we all love the "secrets", even for desserts :lol:
Swear on "Scout's Honor" we will keep it a secret :oops:

Looks YUMMY to me. Great Job!

Note to PooBah--ya need to find some "Smell-a-Forum" and "Taste-a-Forum" software :cry: :cry:

TIM

Solidkick
04-18-2005, 08:55 PM
Photos added to the photo gallery.............

http://www.bandera-brethren.com/modules.php?set_albumName=album35&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

The_Kapn
04-18-2005, 09:07 PM
Photos added to the photo gallery.............

http://www.bandera-brethren.com/modules.php?set_albumName=album35&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php
KICK-
Great Pics!!!!!
I really appreciate the captions. Makes it so easy to follow and informative :lol:

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TIM

BAG3
04-18-2005, 09:19 PM
To hell with kicking some ass . . . . YOU SMOKED SOME!!!!!

Bellybro
04-19-2005, 10:18 AM
Sorry I haven't posted yet. I took Monday off as well to recover fromt the weekend.

GREAT TIME WAS HAD!

Slat great to meet you, and visit. Sorry we didn't get a chance to hook up again before we left.

Hey, we cooked great Q and I don't think we should drastically change a thing.

I think our Rib presentation was weak and probably cost us a higher score. My fault. I won't try that way again. Live and learn.

I am not discouraged at all. We will compete the again.

This is like showing up for a backyard game of football and find out the opposing team is the Patriots!

Spice is right a reality check doesn't hurt anyone.

THe smoker worked well, everyone on the team did an awesome job and we were better prpared and turned in better Q than last year at Boone County so I feel we improved and will keep on marching in that direction.

A bad day cooking is better that a great day at work!!!!

Judges preferences prevail and when you get a 999, and a 988 then a 755 or something by the rest of the judges at that table they are looking for two different things and that is the system we have and have to live with.

Thanks for all your support and words of encouragement!

NEXT!

Bigdog
04-19-2005, 10:32 AM
Sorry I haven't posted yet. I took Monday off as well to recover fromt the weekend.

GREAT TIME WAS HAD!

Slat great to meet you, and visit. Sorry we didn't get a chance to hook up again before we left.

Hey, we cooked great Q and I don't think we should drastically change a thing.

I think our Rib presentation was weak and probably cost us a higher score. My fault. I won't try that way again. Live and learn.

I am not discouraged at all. We will compete the again.

This is like showing up for a backyard game of football and find out the opposing team is the Patriots!

Spice is right a reality check doesn't hurt anyone.

THe smoker worked well, everyone on the team did an awesome job and we were better prpared and turned in better Q than last year at Boone County so I feel we improved and will keep on marching in that direction.

A bad day cooking is better that a great day at work!!!!

Judges preferences prevail and when you get a 999, and a 988 then a 755 or something by the rest of the judges at that table they are looking for two different things and that is the system we have and have to live with.

Thanks for all your support and words of encouragement!

NEXT!

You just hit the nail on the head. My biggest problem with BBQ judging is the extreme scores. Anybody who knows anything about numbers would tell you how exteme scores effect the mean. Most would agree that the extreme score should just be thrown out, or in this case, maybe the judge should be thrown out too. But then again, I understand that different strokes for different folks. So I go back to my main beef, throw out the extreme scores and get real, valid and reliable results. JMHO.

BBQchef33
04-23-2005, 12:51 AM
So I go back to my main beef, throw out the extreme scores and get real, valid and reliable results. JMHO.

The low scores get dropped in KCBS anyway.. so if u have a 555 with 788 and 889's.....the low ends get dropped. I think the wide spreads are a result of the subjectivness of the game, and peoples inate inability to judge the product on ITS OWN MERITS, not their personal preference. What I saw in the judging class was everyone comparing the second piece to the first as well as the "personal factor". that personal factor is a bitch to get past. For example, I dislike cumin(to me..... it smells like an armpit, tastes like dirt)... I understand that if I bite into a rib, and it has a heavy cumin flavor, my personal taste is going to go.. YUK.. GAG, GAG. But i need to set that aside. Is it tender? is the texture right, and are the flavors there, do they blend nicely or is something overpowering... I'd try to judge on the merit of the meat, and what the cook is trying to do.. Just because I dont like cumin, does not mean i will score it low in taste. Unless the blends of spices are just plain old bad.... I think I understand this becase I'm also a cook.... but at my judging table, i was THE ONLY cook. Others were just there to be a judge. Think that will always be one of our handicapps.

Solidkick
04-12-2006, 07:54 PM
We decided to pass on this event this year......but it don't mean I'm not thinking about it.......I'm thinking about it ALOT! :confused:

Any Brethren cooking it this year? I know Randy-Ulcer Acres is, but he hasn't checked in for awhile.

slat
04-12-2006, 09:26 PM
I'm not cooking at it but I will be judging it.

Solidkick
04-13-2006, 12:06 PM
I'm not cooking at it but I will be judging it.

I hope some top notch BBQ crosses your table!!

Bigmista
04-13-2006, 01:28 PM
Ummm... I think I will pass. It's a little too far for me.

slat
04-14-2006, 09:04 AM
It would have been a better year this year temp wise if Kick and the Belly Bros. would have done Charleston. It was on the cool side last year. This year lows in the 60's not upper 30's or low 40's and highs in the low 80's.

MrsMista
04-14-2006, 11:47 AM
Ummm... I think I will pass. It's a little too far for me.

He says that now. Once he gets going good he'll have a pit in every port.

Jeff_in_KC
04-17-2006, 08:03 AM
Wow! Charleston was definitely the heavyweight contest this past weekend! Did y'all see these results?? TOUGH!!!


GC - Bar B Quau
RGC - Buttrub.com
3rd - Lotta Bull
4th - Smokin Triggers
5th - Lets Kick Some Ash
6th - 2 Fat Larrys
7th - Boys from Tornado Alley
8th - Moonswiners (Way to go Podge)
9th Music City Pig Pals
10th - Smokin T's

Category Winners
Chicken - Smokin T's
Ribs - Smokin Triggers
Pork - Buttrub.com
Brisket - Bar B Quau

Solidkick
04-17-2006, 12:39 PM
Glad we saved our gas money........that group right there is ALL Royal Invitiational material year in and year out........Quau is kickin' butt and taking names....this won't be his last win of the season.....and he'll end up in some MoFo/KanFo's Brethren's contest before the summer is out.....

slat
04-17-2006, 09:26 PM
They had 62 teams this year and the organizer said that 20 of them had won 55 contest last year. The Que was good, but what would you expect. Of course there was the usual mix of Que good, ok and bad.