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Smoke'n Ice
07-16-2011, 06:53 PM
Grand Champion: She Thinks My Slabs R Se
Reserve Champion: Munchin Hogs @ the Hilto

Overall:
1. She Thinks My Slabs R Se - 676.5716
2. Munchin Hogs @ the Hilto - 667.9994
3. KC SMOKE DAWGS - 664.5714
4. Team Enoserv - 664.5708
5. Ribs 4 U - 663.9996
6. Pork Me Purple - 663.4278
7. Oh Kay Cee's - 662.2856
8. Blazen BBQ - 660.5714
9. Kosmo's Q - 659.4280
10. HalfSauced Barbeque - 656.5712
11. Big Creek BBQ - 656.5710
12. Grauers Hog Wash BBQ - 655.4282
13. Quau - 654.2854
14. Triple A Cookers - 652.5710
15. Smokin' Triggers - 651.4284
16. Hardway Barbecue - 650.8568
17. Saucy Hogs - 648.0000
18. Wildcatters Q Crew - 646.8572
19. Full Moon BBQ - 646.8570
20. Habitual Smokers - 646.8568
21. MoKan Meatheads - 642.2848
22. The Pickled Pig - 641.7138
23. Redneck Cooker - 638.2860
24. Flat Broke BBQ - 634.8574
25. Pig In! Pig Out! - 633.7140
26. S & S Pit Crew - 632.5712
27. Ritter's BBQ Too! - 632.5712
28. Nothin' Fancy - 626.2856
29. Texas Pepper Jelly - 624.0002
30. Barry and Erica - 623.4284
31. Lil Earl's Butt Naked BB - 613.7140



Chicken:
1. HalfSauced Barbeque - 175.4286
2. She Thinks My Slabs R Se - 174.2858
3. Grauers Hog Wash BBQ - 170.8572
4. Munchin Hogs @ the Hilto - 170.8570
5. Quau - 170.8570
6. Smokin' Triggers - 170.2858
7. KC SMOKE DAWGS - 169.1430
8. Pork Me Purple - 169.1428
9. Barry and Erica - 167.4284
10. Nothin' Fancy - 166.8572
11. Big Creek BBQ - 166.8570
12. MoKan Meatheads - 166.2856
13. Ribs 4 U - 165.1430
14. Team Enoserv - 165.1426
15. Saucy Hogs - 165.1426
16. Habitual Smokers - 164.5714
17. Redneck Cooker - 164.5714
18. Hardway Barbecue - 164.0000
19. Blazen BBQ - 163.9998
20. Kosmo's Q - 163.9998
21. Oh Kay Cee's - 162.8572
22. Full Moon BBQ - 162.8572
23. Wildcatters Q Crew - 160.5716
24. Ritter's BBQ Too! - 160.0000
25. Pig In! Pig Out! - 158.2856
26. Texas Pepper Jelly - 157.1428
27. Flat Broke BBQ - 156.5716
28. Triple A Cookers - 156.0000
29. S & S Pit Crew - 153.1428
30. The Pickled Pig - 152.5714
31. Lil Earl's Butt Naked BB - 150.8570


Ribs:
1. Munchin Hogs @ the Hilto - 174.2856
2. Oh Kay Cee's - 169.1428
3. Ribs 4 U - 169.1428
4. Blazen BBQ - 168.5714
5. Kosmo's Q - 168.5714
6. Quau - 167.4286
7. Pig In! Pig Out! - 167.4286
8. MoKan Meatheads - 167.4284
9. Big Creek BBQ - 166.8572
10. Habitual Smokers - 166.2858
11. Ritter's BBQ Too! - 165.7144
12. Pork Me Purple - 165.1426
13. KC SMOKE DAWGS - 164.5712
14. Team Enoserv - 164.5712
15. Triple A Cookers - 164.5712
16. HalfSauced Barbeque - 164.0000
17. Hardway Barbecue - 162.8570
18. The Pickled Pig - 161.7142
19. S & S Pit Crew - 161.1430
20. Wildcatters Q Crew - 160.5714
21. Smokin' Triggers - 159.4286
22. Texas Pepper Jelly - 158.2860
23. She Thinks My Slabs R Se - 158.2858
24. Barry and Erica - 157.7144
25. Flat Broke BBQ - 156.5714
26. Grauers Hog Wash BBQ - 156.0000
27. Lil Earl's Butt Naked BB - 155.4286
28. Redneck Cooker - 155.4286
29. Saucy Hogs - 154.8572
30. Full Moon BBQ - 154.8570
31. Nothin' Fancy - 149.7144


Pork:
1. Redneck Cooker - 173.1430
2. She Thinks My Slabs R Se - 172.5714
3. Ribs 4 U - 170.8572
4. Hardway Barbecue - 170.2856
5. Wildcatters Q Crew - 169.1430
6. Habitual Smokers - 169.1426
7. Full Moon BBQ - 167.4286
8. Triple A Cookers - 167.4286
9. Grauers Hog Wash BBQ - 167.4284
10. S & S Pit Crew - 165.7144
11. HalfSauced Barbeque - 165.1426
12. Saucy Hogs - 164.5716
13. Pork Me Purple - 163.4284
14. Munchin Hogs @ the Hilto - 163.4282
15. Team Enoserv - 162.8570
16. The Pickled Pig - 162.2854
17. Blazen BBQ - 161.1432
18. Oh Kay Cee's - 160.5714
19. MoKan Meatheads - 160.5710
20. KC SMOKE DAWGS - 160.0000
21. Quau - 159.4286
22. Smokin' Triggers - 159.4284
23. Big Creek BBQ - 158.2854
24. Ritter's BBQ Too! - 157.7142
25. Kosmo's Q - 157.1426
26. Barry and Erica - 156.5716
27. Flat Broke BBQ - 155.4286
28. Pig In! Pig Out! - 153.7142
29. Texas Pepper Jelly - 151.4286
30. Lil Earl's Butt Naked BB - 151.4284
31. Nothin' Fancy - 150.2856


Brisket:
1. Team Enoserv - 172.0000
2. She Thinks My Slabs R Se - 171.4286
3. KC SMOKE DAWGS - 170.8572
4. Kosmo's Q - 169.7142
5. Oh Kay Cee's - 169.7142
6. Blazen BBQ - 166.8570
7. Flat Broke BBQ - 166.2858
8. Pork Me Purple - 165.7140
9. The Pickled Pig - 165.1428
10. Big Creek BBQ - 164.5714
11. Triple A Cookers - 164.5712
12. Saucy Hogs - 163.4286
13. Smokin' Triggers - 162.2856
14. Full Moon BBQ - 161.7142
15. Grauers Hog Wash BBQ - 161.1426
16. Munchin Hogs @ the Hilto - 159.4286
17. Nothin' Fancy - 159.4284
18. Ribs 4 U - 158.8566
19. Texas Pepper Jelly - 157.1428
20. Wildcatters Q Crew - 156.5712
21. Quau - 156.5712
22. Lil Earl's Butt Naked BB - 156.0000
23. Pig In! Pig Out! - 154.2856
24. Hardway Barbecue - 153.7142
25. S & S Pit Crew - 152.5710
26. HalfSauced Barbeque - 152.0000
27. Ritter's BBQ Too! - 149.1426
28. MoKan Meatheads - 147.9998
29. Habitual Smokers - 146.8570
30. Redneck Cooker - 145.1430
31. Barry and Erica - 141.7140

ZILLA
07-16-2011, 07:45 PM
Good work Glen! Way to represent!!!

hcj3rd
07-16-2011, 07:50 PM
Great job Glenn on the GC. Tough field to cook against and come out top. I know it was hot out there too. Good luck in Arkansas

ThomEmery
07-16-2011, 08:21 PM
Great bunch of cooks

Big George's BBQ
07-16-2011, 09:04 PM
Congrats to all who walked

Rookie'48
07-16-2011, 09:56 PM
Congrats to all who got a call.

chromesporty
07-16-2011, 10:26 PM
Congrats to Glenn and all who got a call. Safe travels to all headed home.

goodbuddiesbbq
07-17-2011, 10:55 AM
That's my American Royal neighbor and my darkhorse...way to go Glenn!!!!

Butcher BBQ
07-17-2011, 04:06 PM
Great news Glenn. Congrats and now off to scrap with the best of the best.

thillin
07-17-2011, 04:58 PM
Congrats! And good job to everyone surviving the heat!

Vince RnQ
07-17-2011, 05:05 PM
Big time congrats to the Oh Kay Cee's team out of Albuquerque on qualifying for the Finals! Oh Kay Cee's was inadvertently skipped for a pass down slot in the Las Vegas Regional and KCBS corrected the error by offering them a slot in the Ft. Worth Regional and they made it pay off.

Way to go, KC!!!

DawgPhan
07-18-2011, 09:07 AM
So does that put Quau out of the national title run?

Big Ron
07-18-2011, 10:26 AM
Go get em Glenn.

redneck cooker
07-18-2011, 11:00 AM
So does that put Quau out of the national title run?
YES...:becky:

ParkAvenue_2
07-18-2011, 12:58 PM
Congrats, Glen. Thats a huge win with that field.

Plowboy
07-18-2011, 02:54 PM
YES...:becky:

Why does that deserve a big grin? Mike and Beth are good people.

Scottie
07-18-2011, 04:22 PM
Why does that deserve a big grin? Mike and Beth are good people.


I agree. Not sure what is good about the best cook the last 5 years not cooking in the finals?

As for people. Mike and Beth both donate their time and money to volunteer at cooking classes that i do for my foundation. I think that should say a little something about them as well.

Jeff_in_KC
07-18-2011, 04:44 PM
I was getting ready to say the same thing and ask the same question, Todd. Mike and Beth are people I consider friends and I for one don't appreciate the appearance of the post in question.

Bigmista
07-18-2011, 04:51 PM
Great win against a very tough crowd!

redneck cooker
07-18-2011, 06:51 PM
Why does that deserve a big grin? Mike and Beth are good people.

Did i say They were bad people? Did i comment on their contibutions to BBQ? I have the right to post what i want , without any explanations to anybody! I like them both but Im glad a Texas cook win GC, If that a problem, then oh well.........:heh::becky:

Plowboy
07-18-2011, 07:10 PM
Did i say They were bad people? Did i comment on their contibutions to BBQ? I have the right to post what i want , without any explanations to anybody! I like them both but Im glad a Texas cook win GC, If that a problem, then oh well.........:heh::becky:

Nice try, but you are wearing a thin veil. :roll:

Texana
07-18-2011, 07:23 PM
Great job Glenn ..... Best of luck to you in the finals ....



At this point 8 for 22 .... but not really surprised.

redneck cooker
07-18-2011, 07:35 PM
Nice try, but you are wearing a thin veil. :roll:

Oh well ....so be it....:becky:....:heh:

RangerJ
07-18-2011, 08:34 PM
The written word is not always the best way to interpret ones intent or thoughts, especially on an internet chat board and if your going to decide emoticons are going to be factored into the equation then you will probably be confused more often than not.

Personally, I try not use emoticons, thay way no one can judge my posts on "apperance".

Plowboy
07-18-2011, 08:44 PM
The written word is not always the best way to interpret ones intent or thoughts, especially on an internet chat board and if your going to decide emoticons are going to be factored into the equation then you will probably be confused more often than not.

Personally, I try not use emoticons, thay way no one can judge my posts on "apperance".

I'm not confused. Seemed clear to me.

Muzzlebrake
07-18-2011, 08:51 PM
Congrats to all of this second group of teams that made the finals! It sure is shaping up to be one great field!

Scottie
07-18-2011, 08:56 PM
Oh well ....so be it....:becky:....:heh:



Why take away from Glenn's win? If you were so for Texan, why tarnish his win by saying this crap and then making more fun of it? If nothing else, have respect. No reason to saying anything about Mike and Beth. They are good friends and they do not come to this forum. So I will step up and defend them, whether they are from Illinois or Texas. They do not go around bad mouthing anyone. No need to do that to them.

So congratulations Glenn. Big win. A ton of awesome cooks and it must be sweet coming out on top. Good luck in Arkansas.

Jeff_in_KC
07-18-2011, 08:58 PM
I also thought it was pretty clear. And by the way, you might try reading the rules... you do NOT have the right to post what you want. Free speech does not apply on a forum privately owned by one person. Nice attitude. I'm sure you'll go far.

Muzzlebrake
07-18-2011, 09:01 PM
I'm not confused. Seemed clear to me.

I took it as someone cheering against one of the favorites and nothing personal. Kind of like how people are happy when the Yankees, Cowboys, Celtics get knocked out of the playoffs.
We all tend to love an underdog.

my $.02

Jeff_in_KC
07-18-2011, 09:01 PM
Oh Kay Cee's was inadvertently skipped for a pass down slot in the Las Vegas Regional and KCBS corrected the error by offering them a slot in the Ft. Worth Regional and they made it pay off.

Way to go, KC!!!

Yep, KCBS sure corrected the error. Congrats to Oh Kay Cee's though for a great finish in a tough crowd!

RangerJ
07-18-2011, 09:17 PM
I took it as someone cheering against one of the favorites and nothing personal. Kind of like how people are happy when the Yankees, Cowboys, Celtics get knocked out of the playoffs.
We all tend to love an underdog.

my $.02

+1. I was going to go there but figured no one would listen.

I can guarantee it was not personal and to date, other than one "BIG GRIN" I have yet to see Redneck Cooker say anything negative about Quau.

If he has, someone provide the link.

INmitch
07-18-2011, 09:39 PM
Why take away from Glenn's win? If you were so for Texan, why tarnish his win by saying this crap and then making more fun of it? If nothing else, have respect. No reason to saying anything about Mike and Beth. They are good friends and they do not come to this forum. So I will step up and defend them, whether they are from Illinois or Texas. They do not go around bad mouthing anyone. No need to do that to them.

So congratulations Glenn. Big win. A ton of awesome cooks and it must be sweet coming out on top. Good luck in Arkansas.

I'll step in here when I probably shouldn't. I took it as a little guy (One of those guys you laugh at like me) seeing that the best in the country is out of the big picture. So why don't ya just chill out a little bit!! We all know Mike & Beth are awsome. But it's just one less awsome team that maybe some of us won't have to deal with down the road in later in the Sams dealeybob.:icon_blush:

INmitch
07-18-2011, 09:53 PM
By the way do you get p!ssed when Reverand Randy Twyford says his last line at his 9:22 toast...:icon_shy. Just sayin???......all the same.

Jeff_in_KC
07-18-2011, 10:06 PM
By the way do you get p!ssed when Reverand Randy Twyford says his last line at his 9:22 toast...:icon_shy. Just sayin???......all the same.

I don't get pissed but in the spirit of BBQ, I think it's way out of line. Regardless, you don't single people out and whomever it was that compared this to everyone hating the Yankees, etc, that's apples and oranges. Baseball teams don't cheer for other teams to win and aren't just as happy to see their friends win like we are in BBQ. It came across as a shot at Mike and Beth. Plain and simple. But if it wasn't, why react the way he did?

Scottie
07-18-2011, 10:07 PM
By the way do you get p!ssed when Reverand Randy Twyford says his last line at his 9:22 toast...:icon_shy. Just sayin???......all the same.

I say it as well. It's part of the ritual that we started over 5 years ago. If we get Mike to a shot, he says it. Trust me, nothing but respect.... Mike doesnt hang here? Why say anything about him? Whether a joke or a slam?

And trust me, i dont need to chill. Im all good. Just dont like things being said about friends when they arent here to defend themselves.. whether that be a newby, a little guy
, a big team or a wannabe...

INmitch
07-18-2011, 10:26 PM
YES...:becky:

Dammit Andy!!! I didn't realize that this got turned into a north-south thing! Then tha h3ll with Redkneck:thumb:.........I'm a Norderner:mad2:.................:crazy:

KC_Bobby
07-18-2011, 10:54 PM
Yep, KCBS sure corrected the error. Congrats to Oh Kay Cee's though for a great finish in a tough crowd!

When I heard about 31 teams in this field, my first thought was that someone could very well get hosed. Very unfortunate situation for you Jeff - especially by .0002.

I think a fair solution would have been letting the 11th place team into the finals if Kay Cee's finished in the Top 10. Why?

a) The 11th place team would have completed the goal set up under the "tournament rules" set up this winter - to finish within the top 10 of the 30 teams in the region.

b) Kay Cee's would not have any implication on other teams - they would simply control their own fate. I know very very little about what happened to them missing out on their own regional round, but I believe it was an error outside their control.

c) While this may have put 51 teams into the Finals, it would give every team that achieved the pre-set goals of the tournament, the ability to be there.

I'm hoping the decision-makers will add a 51st team given the situation.

Texana
07-18-2011, 11:09 PM
Not sure I will get listend to but I cant help but open my big mouth once again.

I have read this complete thread from start to finish several times. Seems to me a lot of emphasis is being put on a smiley face. Not to mention Quau's wife was brought into this and nothing anywhere was said negative about her. So I guess I am a little confused at everyone getting their dander up over this. Really a smiley face can do that?

Ranger J said it best and many others over the years have expressed the same thoughts. The written word can be interpreted many ways. At best it is difficult to convey ones thoughts with so many different opinions and personalities in a public forum.

Jeff in KC you mentioned "in the spirit of bbq it was way out of line" ... I say really ... maybe you should take a minute and explain to me the "spirit" of bbq? I mean really .... is there a "spirit" in bbq or is that just your opinion. You see I have an opinion about the "spirit" of bbq as well. What I saw was a smiley face. Not a bashing of a man or his family. Not an insulting comment or slanderous statement. Just a smiley face. And for the record I am not that slow or naive. I do know what you meant by "spirit" but in my opinion there is a lot more to it than just this. Maybe sometime we can talk about it.

And Jeff in KC I am not picking on you by any means. Your comment just happened to kind of hit home. I am not pissed or mad or upset. I guess maybe I just expected a little more from BBQ Brethren than this.

redneck cooker
07-19-2011, 07:58 AM
This is just a case of south grapes, for a few people that are not used to any written conflict abou a team, thats not supone to get beat, well it happened. So say what ypu want, ready it anyway you want, there was no bashing intended, If thats the way you read it then too bad. I stand by my post, so that it. :becky::becky:

Jorge
07-19-2011, 08:08 AM
I took it as someone cheering against one of the favorites and nothing personal. Kind of like how people are happy when the Yankees, Cowboys, Celtics get knocked out of the playoffs.
We all tend to love an underdog.

my $.02

The difference is that they are people, and the comparison to pro sports is a bit of a stretch. I don't think you'll see the Cowboys and Giants sharing philosophies on Defense etc., not to mention loaning equipment.

Trash talk and ribbing is only good natured as long as:A) that was the original intent, B) it is received that way.

The post in question was easy to interpret as being pretty negative. That's the way I took it, and having read more of the thread I'm not completely convinced that I was wrong.

chromesporty
07-19-2011, 08:13 AM
When I heard about 31 teams in this field, my first thought was that someone could very well get hosed. Very unfortunate situation for you Jeff - especially by .0002.

I think a fair solution would have been letting the 11th place team into the finals if Kay Cee's finished in the Top 10. Why?

a) The 11th place team would have completed the goal set up under the "tournament rules" set up this winter - to finish within the top 10 of the 30 teams in the region.

b) Kay Cee's would not have any implication on other teams - they would simply control their own fate. I know very very little about what happened to them missing out on their own regional round, but I believe it was an error outside their control.

c) While this may have put 51 teams into the Finals, it would give every team that achieved the pre-set goals of the tournament, the ability to be there.

I'm hoping the decision-makers will add a 51st team given the situation.

I had this same conversation with Troy via e-mail when I heard the 31st team was extended an invitation. His response was, "Because we have a non-comparitive judging system, it doesn't effect anyones chances of making it through to the nationals. There will only be 10 teams moving on to Bentonville. "

I, too, hope they reconsider their position.

Dustaway
07-19-2011, 08:30 AM
Why take away from Glenn's win? If you were so for Texan, why tarnish his win by saying this crap and then making more fun of it? If nothing else, have respect. No reason to saying anything about Mike and Beth. They are good friends and they do not come to this forum. So I will step up and defend them, whether they are from Illinois or Texas. They do not go around bad mouthing anyone. No need to do that to them.

So congratulations Glenn. Big win. A ton of awesome cooks and it must be sweet coming out on top. Good luck in Arkansas.


Scottie- Why drag me into this mess? and how does it take away from my win?
Oh and I guess thanks for the congratulations hope to see you in Bentonville

Scottie
07-19-2011, 10:35 AM
Scottie- Why drag me into this mess? and how does it take away from my win?
Oh and I guess thanks for the congratulations hope to see you in Bentonville

This thread was about results. Which you also happened to win the GC. To have that focus on other angles, in my opinion takes away from the thread about your wn. So not trying to drag you in, other than trying to have the focus on your win and not someone's happineas in kicking a team when they are down.

We wont be in Arkansas. i only was able to finish 8th in my qualifier.

Jeff_in_KC
07-19-2011, 10:37 AM
Not sure I will get listend to but I cant help but open my big mouth once again.

I have read this complete thread from start to finish several times. Seems to me a lot of emphasis is being put on a smiley face. Not to mention Quau's wife was brought into this and nothing anywhere was said negative about her. So I guess I am a little confused at everyone getting their dander up over this. Really a smiley face can do that?

Ranger J said it best and many others over the years have expressed the same thoughts. The written word can be interpreted many ways. At best it is difficult to convey ones thoughts with so many different opinions and personalities in a public forum.

Jeff in KC you mentioned "in the spirit of bbq it was way out of line" ... I say really ... maybe you should take a minute and explain to me the "spirit" of bbq? I mean really .... is there a "spirit" in bbq or is that just your opinion. You see I have an opinion about the "spirit" of bbq as well. What I saw was a smiley face. Not a bashing of a man or his family. Not an insulting comment or slanderous statement. Just a smiley face. And for the record I am not that slow or naive. I do know what you meant by "spirit" but in my opinion there is a lot more to it than just this. Maybe sometime we can talk about it.

And Jeff in KC I am not picking on you by any means. Your comment just happened to kind of hit home. I am not pissed or mad or upset. I guess maybe I just expected a little more from BBQ Brethren than this.

Is there a "spirit of BBQ"? Everywhere else I've competed, there sure as hell is. Maybe not where you come from.

You guys can stand up for your buddy as much as you want but no one here is stupid. I just don't think it's right to make a comment and end it with that emoticon. Trust me, Quau has seen it. If I was in their position, I'd be a little confused as to why someone would do that. If I were them, I'd guess jealousy. But you know what... sure, they're out of Sam's Club and their proclaimed "national championship" but my money's still on them in winning team of the year again... a MUCH bigger accomplishment. Hats off to Mike and Beth!

Jeff_in_KC
07-19-2011, 10:39 AM
Oh and I guess thanks for the congratulations hope to see you in Bentonville

WTF? Seriously? What kind of comment is this? The man was congratulating you on your win. Did I miss something?

Arlin_MacRae
07-19-2011, 10:44 AM
WTF? Seriously? What kind of comment is this? The man was congratulating you on your win. Did I miss something?Maybe because he felt he was being dragged into what has turned into unpleasantness he felt he would have been better off not being mentioned at all? Just a guess.

Come on, guys - when one word and a smiley generate this much BS I'd say people are having other issues than the one at hand. Maybe it's the heat. Please take a breath before keying a response you wouldn't normally make.

Arlin

Dustaway
07-19-2011, 10:55 AM
We wont be in Arkansas. i only was able to finish 8th in my qualifier.

I didn't realize that I thought your division was a ten and move on to next round. then I hope to see you again in Hammond?

RangerJ
07-19-2011, 11:06 AM
First - I have very few folks I call "Buddy" "Friend" or "Pal". And almost all of those served under the same distingushed unit insignia I did. So, lets get that out of the way.

I guess, when I scrolled by, it never dawned on me that "yes:becky:" Was insulting a man and his bride and pissing on all their BBQ accomplishments.

Which to my earlier comment, I typically don't use emoticons, its well, a bit of a silly way to communicate as far as I'm concerned and leaves quite a bit to the intepretation to the reader. - Amazing that they could evoke such a visceral reaction from some.

You can bet your ass I'll never use one on this board.

Jeff_in_KC
07-19-2011, 11:20 AM
Ranger, I'll put it in simplest terms... in BBQ, it's not cool to be happy someone lost, ESPECIALLY publicly. The post simply implied he was happy Quau lost. That's not the spirit of BBQ, as I mentioned and if it is in Texas, you can bet YOUR ass I won't be back to compete down there. And if he was not happy about it, why not simply understand how it was perceived, admit it could have been said better and move on? Instead, the fire was fanned by follow up comments and now we have this.

Plowboy
07-19-2011, 11:27 AM
First - I have very few folks I call "Buddy" "Friend" or "Pal". And almost all of those served under the same distingushed unit insignia I did. So, lets get that out of the way.

I guess, when I scrolled by, it never dawned on me that "yes:becky:" Was insulting a man and his bride and pissing on all their BBQ accomplishments.

Which to my earlier comment, I typically don't use emoticons, its well, a bit of a silly way to communicate as far as I'm concerned and leaves quite a bit to the intepretation to the reader. - Amazing that they could evoke such a visceral reaction from some.

You can bet your ass I'll never use one on this board.

It really isn't as complicated as it is being made out to be. Someone was happy about a team's misfortune. Doesn't matter who the team is, that is distasteful, period. A simple "Yes." was all that was needed. Folks can back peddle or hide behind presumed innocense all they want, but it was put out there. All of the "I didn't mean this" stuff is transparent. I got a personal message from Beth who saw the comment on here shortly after it was posted thanking me for sticking up for them. So, I'm guessing that she was slightly offended by it. As stated, Mr. Redneck doesn't care... "so be it". Unless it was a personal jib between friends, it was crass.

Mr. Redneck, sorry you didn't make the cut in Ft. Worth. Hope you don't have "South grapes" for not making it. :becky: (Mean nothing by this smiley face. I'm just in a happy mood today.) :becky:

Glenn - I'm sorry that this has crept into a thread about what is really a huge moment for you. Of course, it doesn't take away or tarnish your accomplishment, but I'm sorry that we are polluting the airwaves anyway. Again, congrats!

Alrin - I get what you are saying, buddy. Sometimes you have to stick up for people, friends or not. I think my posts have been clear and composed. I'm not trying to flame (although I want to). I've tried not to escalate the issue.

Scottie
07-19-2011, 11:37 AM
I didn't realize that I thought your division was a ten and move on to next round. then I hope to see you again in Hammond?


Hopefully Hammond. It's a awesome contest.

Congrats on your win again Glenn. None of this nonsense can take way from a big win. :thumb: <<<<<<< that's a good smiley face. Respect.

goodbuddiesbbq
07-19-2011, 01:08 PM
Congrats to Glenn...who I now know must have shigged everything we did at the American Royal to win impressively this week. Hopefully we will be neighbors in Bentonville and we can do it all over again.

I'll take a shot at getting this back on track.

I need the following:

President Obama, Vice President Biden, Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. Police Sgt. James Crowley, Redneck Cooker, Scottie, Jeff in KC, Plowboy, Jorge in the Rose Garden at the White House for some Shiner Bocks and to discuss this situation.

And just like that...it all goes away. If it doesn't....lets move this thing to the wood pile and cut some video promos.

Jeff in KC...if you missed out by .0002...that sucks.

redneck cooker
07-19-2011, 01:25 PM
Congrats to Glenn...who I now know must have shigged everything we did at the American Royal to win impressively this week. Hopefully we will be neighbors in Bentonville and we can do it all over again.

I'll take a shot at getting this back on track.

I need the following:

President Obama, Vice President Biden, Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. Police Sgt. James Crowley, Redneck Cook
er, Scottie, Jeff in KC, Plowboy, Jorge in the Rose Garden at the White House for some Shiner Bocks and to discuss this situation.

And just like that...it all goes away. If it doesn't....lets move this thing to the wood pile and cut some video promos.

Jeff in KC...if you missed out by .0002...that sucks.


Thank you for the invite , goodbuddy, But i wouldnt't drink with any one on your list except you,.....again .....so be it!......:becky::becky:

WhiskeyBentBBQ
07-19-2011, 02:11 PM
Great job Glenn. We really enjoyed being your neighbor at the Royal last year and have been pulling for you in the Sam's Club events. Hopefully we can see you in Bentoville! Congrats!

chambersuac
07-19-2011, 02:30 PM
I am very new to competitions, but I know several people on several teams here. I'm pretty sure you can all kick my butt in competitions (for now, LOL). HOWEVER, there has never been a question that I have asked here that has not been answered by folks who will possibly be competing against me in the future. I have never asked for advice at a competition and not been helped. I have had a competing team pick up garnish for me, because I forgot. To me, that's part of the "Spirit of BBQ" and especially the Brethren.

I would never be happy that any team lost (unless it means that I just beat them, LOL...you know what I mean by that I hope). In fact, I joke about not wanting someone to be at a competition where I will be because I think that they are too much competition...but I do that to/with friends (Ron L and Divemaster come to mind) - but truth be told, I want the really good teams competing when/where I am, because I know that (1) I will have a chance to learn something from them; (2) will have great people to chat with - however briefly; and (3) pushes me to try harder.

I don't know the guys who placed in Ft. Worth, but I would like to congratulate them and with them well in Arkansas. Hopefully one day, we'll have a chance to meet. As far as Quau, WOW, they have been tearing up the circuit and I say, "God bless them and more power to them - they have obviously done the work and trials to get where they are."

Okay, I have no idea why I just typed all that - but I stand by it. The "Spirit of BBQ" must have moved me. Ha.

Texana
07-19-2011, 02:32 PM
Is there a "spirit of BBQ"? Everywhere else I've competed, there sure as hell is. Maybe not where you come from.



I come from Texas and our bbq competitions have as much bbq spirit as those you have competed in. But shouldn't the bbq spirit extend beyond "competitions"?

To tell you the truth on this forum the "spirit of BBQ" is/has/can be very narrow minded.

Jeff_in_KC
07-19-2011, 02:47 PM
Thank you for the invite , goodbuddy, But i wouldnt't drink with any one on your list except you,.....again .....so be it!......:becky::becky:

I know where you're coming from... I wouldn't take a class from anyone on that list but Scottie and Todd.

Jeff_in_KC
07-19-2011, 02:50 PM
I come from Texas and our bbq competitions have as much bbq spirit as those you have competed in. But shouldn't the bbq spirit extend beyond "competitions"?

To tell you the truth on this forum the "spirit of BBQ" is/has/can be very narrow minded.

You have a very valid point. Some people, however... ehhh, what's the point?

You think this forum is narrow minded, you should try a couple of others where there is little tolerance for anyone but a handful of people's opinions. :roll:

ique
07-19-2011, 03:10 PM
Thank you for the invite , goodbuddy, But i wouldnt't drink with any one on your list except you,.....again .....so be it!......:becky::becky:

If the beer is free and cold I'll drink with just about anyone!

Texana
07-19-2011, 03:25 PM
You have a very valid point. Some people, however... ehhh, what's the point?

You think this forum is narrow minded, you should try a couple of others where there is little tolerance for anyone but a handful of people's opinions. :roll:

You call it spirit. I call it unity. Tolerance works as well. Until we see more of that everywhere there is little chance that we can all be more accepting and understanding. But it needs to start here not just on the competition field.

Thanks for letting me say what was on my mind.

Jeff_in_KC
07-19-2011, 03:54 PM
You call it spirit. I call it unity. Tolerance works as well. Until we see more of that everywhere there is little chance that we can all be more accepting and understanding. But it needs to start here not just on the competition field.

Thanks for letting me say what was on my mind.

I'd just question what you're asking some folks to tolerate. Tolerating someone's opinions is one thing but standing up for friends is quite another.

DawgPhan
07-19-2011, 04:09 PM
If the beer is free and cold I'll drink with just about anyone!


if it's free it is already cold enough.

redneck cooker
07-19-2011, 04:10 PM
I'd just question what you're asking some folks to tolerate. Tolerating someone's opinions is one thing but standing up for friends is quite another.

Why should you or anyone else stand up for someone that If They were offended in any way, could join here and take up for themselves? Must not be Very bad If the people, involved didnt cry foul??? I just think some here want it to be Very narrow minded to few KCBS select cookers. :doh:....Most comp cooks I know dont take offense unless aimes at them personally......oh well

mw
07-19-2011, 04:40 PM
Yep, KCBS sure corrected the error. Congrats to Oh Kay Cee's though for a great finish in a tough crowd!
The quote could be taken a little sarcastic.
You came in 11th by .0002 points.
Oh Kay Cee's hosed you.
Your comments have been "tolerated" and you took up for your friends.
Get over it.

Texana
07-19-2011, 04:48 PM
I'd just question what you're asking some folks to tolerate. Tolerating someone's opinions is one thing but standing up for friends is quite another.

No need to question what I am asking anyone to tolerate. Personally it just bothered me that some got so upset about something really so trivial (in my opinion) with bigger issues on this forum than this.

Jorge
07-19-2011, 05:02 PM
Why should you or anyone else stand up for someone that If They were offended in any way, could join here and take up for themselves? Must not be Very bad If the people, involved didnt cry foul??? I just think some here want it to be Very narrow minded to few KCBS select cookers. :doh:....Most comp cooks I know dont take offense unless aimes at them personally......oh well

I don't know how you were raised, but being a native Texan I tend to do that.

RangerJ
07-19-2011, 05:13 PM
Ranger, I'll put it in simplest terms... in BBQ, it's not cool to be happy someone lost, ESPECIALLY publicly. The post simply implied he was happy Quau lost. That's not the spirit of BBQ, as I mentioned and if it is in Texas, you can bet YOUR ass I won't be back to compete down there.

Perhaps its my boyish good looks that leads one to perceive I'm slow? Thanks for slowing down and simplifying whats "cool" and the "spirit" of BBQ.

I've never organized an event, won any championships, hell I've never even placed first in one category, but I have cooked in my short "career" in 5 different states and all certainly have allowed me to perceive what is the spirit of BBQ. Its not much different from California to Alabama to Texas.

Now about this drinking together thing, I'll toss back a cold one with anyone, well honestly, it probaby does not have to be cold. I'll talk, sports, politics, religon, Hell we can even debate what we think the spirit of BBQ means.

But if any discussions of emoticons comes up, I'm out.

chambersuac
07-19-2011, 05:13 PM
Why should you or anyone else stand up for someone that If They were offended in any way, could join here and take up for themselves? Must not be Very bad If the people, involved didnt cry foul??? I just think some here want it to be Very narrow minded to few KCBS select cookers. :doh:....Most comp cooks I know dont take offense unless aimes at them personally......oh well

From your posts in this thread, I have learned the following about you:
1. You have no loyalty to friends;
2. You have no understanding of basic decency;
3. You don't understand who the Brethren are or how we think;
4. You may live in Texas, but you don't hold Texas values;
5. You give Texans and BBQ a bad name.

Why do I say that???? You posted as stupid arse comment that no true decent man would post - and when called on it, you didn't apologize or set the record straight like a real man would do. YOu talk outta your arse, not like a Texan should talk.

I don't care who you are - or where you're from - but if you speak ill of my kinfolk or my friends, I'm gonna defend them unless you have some damn good reason and proof for doing so. (and, yes, I'm a Texan living in IL)

Jeff_in_KC
07-19-2011, 05:15 PM
Why should you or anyone else stand up for someone that If They were offended in any way, could join here and take up for themselves? Must not be Very bad If the people, involved didnt cry foul??? I just think some here want it to be Very narrow minded to few KCBS select cookers. :doh:....Most comp cooks I know dont take offense unless aimes at them personally......oh well

I guess you have no idea the kind of people Mike and Beth are. You were told they expressed their appreciation for our support here. And I guess it's because they are friends that some of us take exception. Most people I know around here support their friends even if something isn't aimed at us personally. The problem I have with you is you KNOW what you meant and you KNOW how it was taken by Quau, Why can't you even apologize for the whole attitude towards them? It's not bad enough that you don't accept that you might have hurt someone's feelings but you compound it by your brash "who cares" attitude afterwards.

chambersuac
07-19-2011, 05:16 PM
This whole thread has turned into a train wreck due to some stupid arse posts. We should be celebrating the accomplishments of those who have won. Sorry that I got involved other than to say, "Congrats to all who walked"!

mw
07-19-2011, 05:42 PM
This whole thread has turned into a train wreck due to some stupid arse posts. We should be celebrating the accomplishments of those who have won. Sorry that I got involved other than to say, "Congrats to all who walked"!
Well said!!
Congratulations to the Jarretts, She Thinks My Slabs R Sexy, and all those that earned a spot in Bentonville!

BobBrisket
07-19-2011, 06:18 PM
This whole thread has turned into a train wreck due to some stupid arse posts. We should be celebrating the accomplishments of those who have won. Sorry that I got involved other than to say, "Congrats to all who walked"!

On this note, let's turn the thread back to its original intention. To congratulate ALL the teams. This is the second warning. The next step will be to lock and scrub the thread or remove it completely. We'd rather not have to do either one. Both the opinion and the folks in question have been defended by both sides. Let's leave it at that.

Thanks,

Mods

Jeff_in_KC
07-19-2011, 07:52 PM
I've already promised someone else I'd let it go. No point banging heads against brick walls when people don't get it so I'm done commenting on the whole issue. You're welcome! LOL!

Texana
07-19-2011, 07:56 PM
On this note, let's turn the thread back to its original intention. To congratulate ALL the teams. This is the second warning. The next step will be to lock and scrub the thread or remove it completely. We'd rather not have to do either one. Both the opinion and the folks in question have been defended by both sides. Let's leave it at that.

Thanks,

Mods

Agreed. Congrats to Glenn. Great job and what a great win. Three 2nd place calls. I dont care where you cook or what event that is a great day. Congrats to the other 9 who get to advance to the finals.

Kosmo's Q
07-19-2011, 09:03 PM
Great job to Glenn and Munchin Hogs. Very impressive showing from both teams and can't wait to see you guys in Bentonville, Ark. Congrats to everyone else who got a call as well!

Kosmo

HoDeDo
07-20-2011, 10:48 PM
Man Bob, I got through half this thing, and nicely constructed post written, then I saw your lil post.... what a waste of 20 min. :)

I'll email Jeff to call him out on his BS. LOL And I'm offended no one took up for a damnit andy call out. OMG, it had emoticons behind it later too.... I have figured it out though... when it is 100+ degrees out, it is almost like the winter.... Cabin Fever has set in!!!

BobBrisket
07-20-2011, 11:36 PM
Dangit ANDY!!!:becky::thumb:

Bob

INmitch
07-21-2011, 06:02 AM
I stayed away from this thread for a few days on purpose. After reading the rest of it I think was out of line on my opinion. I appoligize for that. And the 'dammit Andy' that I threw in was all in fun, didn't mean to ruffle any feathers. I took Todd's class last fall and have nothing but the utmost respect for him. No smilies. Again sorry!

Dustaway
07-21-2011, 07:48 AM
Congrats to Glenn...who I now know must have shigged everything we did at the American Royal to win impressively this week. Hopefully we will be neighbors in Bentonville and we can do it all over again.

Great job Glenn. We really enjoyed being your neighbor at the Royal last year and have been pulling for you in the Sam's Club events. Hopefully we can see you in Bentoville! Congrats!

Thanks Guy's and yes this past weekend someone informd me that I was the siggmaster:becky::becky::becky:

Hope to see you guys in Bentoville :thumb:

Jorge
07-21-2011, 07:56 AM
Congrats again, Glenn. BTW, I still owe you the best burger in town.

HoDeDo
07-21-2011, 08:31 AM
I stayed away from this thread for a few days on purpose. After reading the rest of it I think was out of line on my opinion. I appoligize for that. And the 'dammit Andy' that I threw in was all in fun, didn't mean to ruffle any feathers. I took Todd's class last fall and have nothing but the utmost respect for him. No smilies. Again sorry!

Oh I know it was all in fun. I was using it as a joke:thumb: No offense taken at all. It's a term of endearment honestly... (Can't believe how long it has persisted, the contest it started at no longer exists!!).

Plowboy
07-21-2011, 03:10 PM
Man Bob, I got through half this thing, and nicely constructed post written, then I saw your lil post.... what a waste of 20 min. :)

I'll email Jeff to call him out on his BS. LOL And I'm offended no one took up for a damnit andy call out. OMG, it had emoticons behind it later too.... I have figured it out though... when it is 100+ degrees out, it is almost like the winter.... Cabin Fever has set in!!!

Someone should really stick up for the little guy. :becky: (That's what she said.)

Muzzlebrake
07-21-2011, 08:36 PM
Someone should really stick up for the little guy. :becky: (That's what she said.)

OK lets just leave Andy out of this! I happen to know how emoticons disturb him...........

Plowboy
07-22-2011, 08:21 AM
OK lets just leave Andy out of this! I happen to know how emoticons disturb him...........

Just the animated ones because he thinks they are possessed. :laugh:

Andy's emoticonally disturbed. :crazy: Insane in the membrane.

Jorge
07-22-2011, 08:24 AM
Just the animated ones because he thinks they are possessed. :laugh:

Andy's emoticonally disturbed. :crazy: Insane in the membrane.

I don't know...they do remind me of clowns.....

Muzzlebrake
07-22-2011, 01:24 PM
I don't know...they do remind me of clowns.....

who does? Andy, Todd, me or emoticons?

Jorge
07-22-2011, 01:26 PM
who does? Andy, Todd, me or emoticons?

Must I choose? Why can't you all be winners?

Plowboy
07-22-2011, 03:32 PM
who does? Andy, Todd, me or emoticons?

At least clowns are funny. More than I can say for you, pal.

Well, the sad clowns aren't funny. More meloncholy.

Jorge
07-22-2011, 03:53 PM
At least clowns are funny. More than I can say for you, pal.

Well, the sad clowns aren't funny. More meloncholy.

El mozo de labranza 2012!

Smoke'n Ice
07-22-2011, 06:16 PM
el jefe 2012
Gave Candy your name as a possible canidate with good following as no one else has signed up yet. Good Luck Jorge and Scottie, I need a badge to wear at the next cookoff.

Muzzlebrake
07-22-2011, 09:49 PM
At least clowns are funny. More than I can say for you, pal.

Well, the sad clowns aren't funny. More meloncholy.

I am not the melancholy clown........the goofy one maybe

HoDeDo
07-24-2011, 09:11 PM
Insane Clown Posse?

And for the record, I am not any less offended. hahahaha