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Maddog's
06-09-2011, 03:12 AM
No, I'm serious. From your experiences, how much room are you NORMALLY granted at a competition? 10x20, 20x20, 15x20, more, less, what?
Are RV accomodations (hookups for water and/or sewer and/or electricity) available be they just space or the hookups, as well?
Yes. I understand that "It depends" is a common answer to these questions but what do you NORMALLY get where you compete, on average? Or what do your organizers shoot for?
Furthermore, what have you come to expect in terms of infrastructure support and by that I mean for your comp booth: Electricity? Water? Ash dump? Grease dump? Grey water dump? Wash facilities? Toilets? Showers? Massages? OK well, but seriously...
How many of your comps organize pot luck dinners on cook night?
What are you used to paying for entry?
What do you normally expect from that fee? (Do you normally get meat or other supplies from the hosts, organizers or sponsors?) On average?
And finally, the total prize fund, what have you come to expect?
I am a very active member of the PNWBA and I think they do one helluva good job with comps!!! But I don't get out much to other association sanctioned comps or other geographic areas and I wonder what the norm is where YOU compete. Thanks, in advance, for your feedback!

Vince RnQ
06-09-2011, 05:09 AM
In Arizona, we "normally" see 20' x 20' spaces as the standard size space in our area. Sometimes there is a charge for extra space and sometimes the venue is very large and can accommodate larger set-up/RVs with no extra charge. Power is "normally" available and is usually included in the entry fee but sometimes there is a $50 extra charge for it.

Ash, gray water and trash disposal are usually on site and sometimes there are folks working at the event who will pick these things up and deliver water & ice too.

Pot luck dinners happen sometimes but not very often.

Entry fees are usually in the $250 to $350 range, depending on the extras, and the prize funds are almost always $10,000 for that size fee.

Crash
06-09-2011, 06:00 AM
Vince nailed it 100%. 20x20 is the minimum that we usually needed and 20x30 was a more realistic size. In AZ 2010 it was always expected to have electricity, water, ash dump and ice (available for a price). We have seen a few AZ competitions offer showers (2 out of 10 in 2010 to my knowledge).

Like Vince said, entry fee is a fairly consistent $300 average and payouts hovered right around 10K for the most part in AZ. We've very rarely gotten meat or other supplies (besides the occasional 10-20lb bag of ice) from organizers/promoters. Sometimes, we would get a team goodie bag full of marginally useful stuff.

That's all I can offer.

redneck cooker
06-09-2011, 07:47 AM
Usually in Texas, it can be from 25x25 to as much as you need, it just depends on how the promoter is and where its being held. For the most part its about 40x40,

RV hook ups, water and electricity about 30% of the time, never grey or black water dump, and never seen a grease dump at a cook off.

There are several that have pot luck dinners on Friday evening, usually a new cook off trying to get feedback or generate growth.

Entry fee fro $60-150, most of the time that includes nothing but ability to cook, goody bags have just about gone by the way side form yrs back..

tmcmaster
06-09-2011, 08:10 AM
I get what I pay for. And, as a cheap-@$$, thats usually the minimum offered, 20X20. Some great contests (Que for the Troops being the most recent) had 20X25 stalls, and it was luxurious!!! But, I have a smaller set up, and could, in a pinch, pull it off in 15X15.

Ford
06-09-2011, 08:37 AM
I need 31 feet. sometiems I pay for an extra spot sometimes I pass on the contest. They offer what they want and I decide if they get my business.

I need 30 amp power some give it and sometimes I run the generator. My choice just as it's my choice to go.

I've usually seen pot luick run by the teams. You put effort into making it a better time, it's not all the organizers.

Smokin Turkey
06-09-2011, 09:20 AM
Our event - BBQ @ The Beach, Raystown PA We have standard 20x30 sites with 10amp electricity and water hookups. Larger sites are available and anything more electric wise would need a generator.

We also have gray water dump centrally located, trash pickup, one bag of ice per day, grease dump, ash dump, and we are working to secure local hickory for those who want it. (like we did last year) We have showers and restroom facilities as well as portajohns in the works this year.

Our judges tent doubles as an area for a potluck (3-20x30 tents in a U shape) as well as a late night lake cruise on Friday night which the potluck can be held on.

The open grilling category includes 1lb of burger (i better confirm before I say for sure but we did that last year) as well as a peoples choice pulled pork, we are working to supply 1 butt per team. The prize pool will be similar to last year with custom made trophies

ThomEmery
06-09-2011, 09:39 AM
I try to provide 20 wide 40 deep sites

The_Kapn
06-09-2011, 10:08 AM
Lots of questions--I'll tackle a couple. :-D

Here in FBA land. 20 X 30 is most common. Sometimes larger.
A couple are less and we just don't go there.

20AMP power is normally within 50' or so, almost always within 100'. Some have 30 AMP or more--bless them. Water availability is the same.
Without that, we pass.

Almost all have grease and ash disposal, or instructions on how to properly dispose of them.
We expect trash pickup at the site unless "dumpsters" are nearby. We will not tote trash a quarter mile while the event staff cruises around in carts. (Pet Peeve)

Entry fees are creeping up. A couple are at $300 and many are $250. Sometimes the purse justifies the fee, sometimes not. A contest near to me (40 Miles) has gone to $275 with a relatively low purse. One nickle higher and we will pass on it and we have gone 5 of the last 6 years. I think this year they drew over $12,000 in entry fees with a purse of around $7500 if I remember correctly. And, we never saw one member of the staff anywhere near to competitors area.

A couple are $200 with a nice purse--we go there for sure!
An entry fee above $250 needs a purse of $10,000 or more or we pass.
We are not going to fund the event with little chance of even a fair return if we cook well that day.

We are getting more events with permanent bathroom facilities. Not necessary, but a real treat.

The short version of all the above:
We do not need to be "coddled" but we need certain things; water, electric, adequate space, and a reasonable balance of fees and purse.
That's just what we expect.

JMHO

TIM

Lake Dogs
06-09-2011, 11:03 AM
^^^ what Tim said above

Slamdunkpro
06-09-2011, 11:23 AM
Here in the Mid Atlantic the trend seems to be offer a 20x20 or 20x25 space standard with more space for an additional fee (usually $10 per linear foot). Minimal electrical service is included with that about 75% of the time, bigger service is usually available for an additional fee. (I'm seeing a trend here):evil:

Entry fees here are creeping up here as well - $250 is about average, but when you throw in the site extras it's closer to $350.

Ash and grease dumps are usually standard, trash varies.

As far as awards go - I like to see at least 80% of the entry fees returned as cash prizes. 100% or more if an event has major sponsors.

The most important thing to me is that I know all of this before sending in my entry fee.

What I don't like

+1 to Kaplin's "staff in carts" peeve. If you've got enough money to have a bunch of staff people aimlessly cruising around in carts, why the hell am I lugging water in a 5 gallon bucket or 50 lbs of ice 1/4 mile?

Surprises in the cook's information package - Tell me before I send in my entry fee that there are significant entry / exit restrictions. additional fees, parking restrictions / HD requirements etc.

Jamming the competitors together when there is no need. If you've got a huge amount of open space why are you limiting the competitors to 20x20's?

Leaving gaps in the rows on early load-in - Not all of us can get there Thursday night. It irks me when I get to your comp and you tell me that my space is in between 2 RV's in the center of two already filled in rows with a 8 fool alley and I have to try and put a 15 foot trailer in there. Fill the sites up sequentially as competitors come in.

The_Kapn
06-09-2011, 11:36 AM
One more pet peeve.

If you have an event that often turns into a mud bog (we have at least 2 that I know of), have a tractor or 2 handy to pull us out.
Both of the wet venues do just that and we appreciate it :-D

Minor thing, but important for those of us who do not have 4 wheel drive trucks with mud tires.

TIM

crd26a
06-09-2011, 12:07 PM
KC is usually blessed with some larger venue spots, but I typically see at least 20 x 25 or 20 x 30. 20 x 30 is fantastic, perfect to let me keep the truck hooked up to the trailer if its a flat spot.

I expect to have some form of electricity included, preferably 20 AMP at a minimum and 30 AMP a big plus (willing to spend the extra for the 30 AMP if its an option, just don't make it crazy), bathrooms at a reasonable distance from each of the competitors, and ash containers. Trash collection is almost a must, or have trash cans near most competitors. A plus is a free bag of ice or two, and for those that charge, a reasonable charge for ice (we've all see the $5 plus small bags of ice at contests, wtf)

smalls65
06-09-2011, 12:16 PM
At least 20 x 20 with basic water and power suits us well..we have a small set-up...But I DO expect power and water to be included with the basic package...If power is an extra charge, then I usually pass on the contest...

Rub
06-09-2011, 01:38 PM
Lots of questions--I'll tackle a couple. :-D

Here in FBA land. 20 X 30 is most common. Sometimes larger.
A couple are less and we just don't go there.

20AMP power is normally within 50' or so, almost always within 100'. Some have 30 AMP or more--bless them. Water availability is the same.
Without that, we pass.

Almost all have grease and ash disposal, or instructions on how to properly dispose of them.
We expect trash pickup at the site unless "dumpsters" are nearby. We will not tote trash a quarter mile while the event staff cruises around in carts. (Pet Peeve)

Entry fees are creeping up. A couple are at $300 and many are $250. Sometimes the purse justifies the fee, sometimes not. A contest near to me (40 Miles) has gone to $275 with a relatively low purse. One nickle higher and we will pass on it and we have gone 5 of the last 6 years. I think this year they drew over $12,000 in entry fees with a purse of around $7500 if I remember correctly. And, we never saw one member of the staff anywhere near to competitors area.

A couple are $200 with a nice purse--we go there for sure!
An entry fee above $250 needs a purse of $10,000 or more or we pass.
We are not going to fund the event with little chance of even a fair return if we cook well that day.

We are getting more events with permanent bathroom facilities. Not necessary, but a real treat.

The short version of all the above:
We do not need to be "coddled" but we need certain things; water, electric, adequate space, and a reasonable balance of fees and purse.
That's just what we expect.

JMHO

TIM

Ditto for me. Thanks for typing it all out Tim. :thumb:

Maddog's
06-09-2011, 01:56 PM
WOW! Thanks for all the info. Keep it coming, if you like. Share your experience and your opinions. I appreciate that greatly. I am about to serve on a strategic planning committee for my association and in looking to the future, I believe we need to establish some standards for such topics as you are all addressing here. Of course, we won't always be able to achieve what we seek but we should know what we shoot for as a standard AND know what is below acceptable minimums in terms of accomodations for comp teams. I don't believe we can do that in a vacuum. That is to say, without looking to see what is standard elsewhere. You are are contributing mightily to that and I appreciate it sincerely. Keep 'em coming!!!

Bentley
06-09-2011, 02:31 PM
Furthermore, what have you come to expect in terms of infrastructure support and by that I mean for your comp booth: Electricity? Water? Ash dump? Grease dump? Grey water dump? Wash facilities? Toilets? Showers? Massages? OK well, but seriously...
How many of your comps organize pot luck dinners on cook night?
What are you used to paying for entry?
What do you normally expect from that fee? (Do you normally get meat or other supplies from the hosts, organizers or sponsors?) On average?
And finally, the total prize fund, what have you come to expect?


Usually 20x20.

We have a generator, so would prefer to see it not included in the cost. If a team needs it, we would prefer the promoter charge an additional fee to those teams so it is not on our back.

Water at the site? Maybe 3 times in 9 years, but that is virtually impossible. 1 hose for 50 teams, have seen that a few times, if you can at least get one on each end of competition it is nice.

We do not deal with ash, grease and gray water is usually just one, more is always more convenient.

The other items are luxuries that are seldom available at contest we cook. Entries fees have gone from about $150 for $3000 worth of prize money in 2002 when we started to. $250 to $300 for $5000 to $12000 in prize money. We are not consistent enough to support our hobby through winning, so when we do compete, we are going to look for the entry fee Vs pay-out as a motivating factor. Big 1st place meat payout is nice, cuz every once in awhile we get lucky with a 1st or 2nd in meat.

JD McGee
06-09-2011, 03:17 PM
Great thread Pat...I did something similar in a poll format not long ago. Glad to see you and I are on the same page in regards to the organization we cook for. Here is my two cents...

20x20 minumum space (or I ain't cookin')...if I can't put my comp trailer on my spot...I ain't cookin'. If you want us to sample for a charity event...give us meat or re-imburse us for the cost of ours.

Organization and communication is paramount...if it's a load-in...load-out cluster f... I won't be back! We need to know EVERYTHING about the comp ahead of time...

One pet peeve here...keep your mystery meats...I don't cook them!

See ya tommorrow...best to Christine!

The_Kapn
06-09-2011, 03:22 PM
WOW! Thanks for all the info. Keep it coming, if you like. Share your experience and your opinions. I appreciate that greatly. I am about to serve on a strategic planning committee for my association and in looking to the future, I believe we need to establish some standards for such topics as you are all addressing here. Of course, we won't always be able to achieve what we seek but we should know what we shoot for as a standard AND know what is below acceptable minimums in terms of accomodations for comp teams. I don't believe we can do that in a vacuum. That is to say, without looking to see what is standard elsewhere. You are are contributing mightily to that and I appreciate it sincerely. Keep 'em coming!!!

Glad to see your group is getting into this mode of thinking.

I understand that our FBA REP's work very closely with the event organizers throughout the planning stage.

I know we have had at least 2 brand new events this year (Marianna and Ocala) that were first rate with very few "kinks" to work out next year.
The other new one (Tallahassee) had several areas that need some work, it was still good, but should be a great contest next year.

It just dawned on me that of the 4 events we have cooked this year, those 3 listed above, were head and shoulders above the other (Dothan), which left a lot to be desired, and Dothan is about 6 years old!!!

Great partnership between the REP's and Organizers, especially with the new contests, IMHO.

TIM

Lake Dogs
06-09-2011, 03:58 PM
A hint on the cooking space size thing. For many the 20x20 will do, but for the guys with RV's they're mostly going to need 20x40 (give or take a few feet). Have them back-up to one another. That way the guys needing the 20x40 just use 2 spots... One of my favorite comps we end up taking up a 30x60 area, just because we can...

Oh, on the 20x20, I'm assuming you're talking about a sanctioned comp such as KCBS, FBA, etc. This holds true. However, for MBN you'll generally need a larger space, averages being averages. 20x30 is probably the standard for those.

A lot of the RV guys can bring their own water and power (generator), but supplying it is VERY nice. An ice guy here or there is great. I have seen many try to gouge the competitors on ice prices. I wouldn't, it only ticks 'em off.

We expect (and have never returned to a competition that doesn't have this):
Porta Potties, plenty of them scattered around and kept neat/clean (In some of the larger contests we'll rent our own)
Ash & Grease disposal
Ice (available at a reasonable cost, usually delivered by some kid on a golf cart)

The power and water are extra nice for us because we have the RV, but frankly we expect it. I cant think of a competition that we compete in regularly that doesn't have these. Some even provide cable. Sounds funny, but many of our competitions are on Saturday's during football season...

I saw one contest use Hooters' waitresses in the carts delivering ice. As I understand it they made pretty good tips and drank free all Friday night...

The_Kapn
06-09-2011, 04:11 PM
I saw one contest use Hooters' waitresses in the carts delivering ice. As I understand it they made pretty good tips and drank free all Friday night...

Hance,

Genius, pure genius! :-D
I know my ice consumption would go WAY UP, even if I had to pour it on the ground. :-D
$20 a bag--No Problemo. :-D

Gotta pass that on to the FBA REP's.

TIM

Ryan Chester
06-09-2011, 04:29 PM
20x40..I have to fit the 36 foot trailer somewhere.

Stoke&Smoke
06-09-2011, 04:33 PM
I agree with most of what others have said here.20x20 is standard in our area as well. We have a 12' pop up camper that extends to about 20', so I like to have a 20x30 space if at all possible so I can keep my truck nearby.

Most of the comps we've done (20 in all so far...god are we newbies!) there are usually enough outhouses, but sometimes they aren't dumped frequently enougn.

There is usually, but not always, accessible water. The better ones stretch what they call hose trees all around so you can usually be within 50' of one. They often suggest you bring along a splitter to help share. Mine was stolen at the last comp!

Power is usually 20Amp, if they have it, occaisionally 30. We bring a generator as it's much more reliable.

Ice, for sale at a reasonable price, in my opinion, is nescessary, especially where once set up you aren't allowed to leave

Real bathrooms, sinks, and showers are a luxury that we've seen available at some, but not many comps, but they sure are appriciated where they're available. We keep a coleman instant water heater which has doubled as a shower on occaision, you can pick up a pop-up shower/bath enclosure at Bass pro or other sporting good stores for not too much dough.

Most comps don't seem too concerned with grey water around here, actual RV dumps are another story.

I always welcome easily accessible ash barrels. If they are not closeby, I'll usually dump my ashes into a disposable full foil pan full of water, as I don't want to be carrying a bowl full of hot coals further than 10 or twenty yards. Grease disposal is far too rare at the comps around here, at least in my opinion.

coffee and donuts, or some sort of breakfast is also a huge plus, but not always available.

Finally, as to the prize pools, I just think that a fair share of our entry fees be used for prizes, and not all as profit for the organizers. Usually, we decide before going if the prize money offered is worth the trip to us.

Maddog's
06-09-2011, 04:49 PM
KAPN -
Lots of good comments, thanks! I will jump in, however, and note that as an active member of the PNWBA (Competing this weekend at a really cool winery in eastern Washington to benefit Operation BBQ) I am aiming not necessarily to 'FIX' our process but rather to forecast, plan and adjust toward the future via the strat planning committee. So, I REALLY REALLY REALLY do appreciate ALL of y'all's comments.
Keep 'em coming, guys. I'll bet this is not only helpful to me but others, as well. You guys are a wealth of information and considered opinions.
All valuable. The Bretheren Rock!

Yes JD, we'll see you tomorrow at the winery and just so you know, I do better WHEN I cook and drink than when I just cook and by the way I HATE CHICKEN!!! (Inside joke)

JD McGee
06-09-2011, 05:40 PM
es JD, we'll see you tomorrow at the winery and just so you know, I do better WHEN I cook and drink than when I just cook and by the way I HATE CHICKEN!!! (Inside joke)

Lol! After that 3rd place call in Langley I thought you'd be lovin' chicken...

Smokin Turkey
06-09-2011, 08:39 PM
Usually 20x20.

We have a generator, so would prefer to see it not included in the cost. If a team needs it, we would prefer the promoter charge an additional fee to those teams so it is not on our back.
I am speaking for our event in that electricity is provided and built into our budget which I guess can be said it is spread in there someplace with the fee's but to offer it for extra would be silly to me. As an organizer I would not want 42 teams in the event running generators with all the noise cause lets face it - not everyone has a soft purring honda. Someone will have a noisy harbor freight generator and likely it will beside someone with a baby and a tent. Just sayin'. It's not worth saving $5 or $10 on your comp fee.

We are a 2nd year event and we have some things to change but all in all we had a pretty solid first year. We took notes at all the events we traveled to the 2 years before about what worked and what didnt. We also know that making the teams happy, makes everyone happy. We don't want to overwork teams with a full schedule of things like cooking events and we know that our event is a great location to want to see so we try to schedule our day accordingly.

Also I didn't mention it but all the competitors at our event get the same benefits as the VIP visitors like special seats at the bands, beer and wine tasting (free), kids area tickets, a non-sanctioned grilling event entry is included in the event fee, and I am personally the "mayor of BBQ town" and I walk around and make sure everyone is happy - and there is anything you need it gets done.

We especially take care of our returning teams by offering discounts because we see it as a reciprocation of taking care of each other. Our prize pools are reflecting on how many teams we get. We are maxing at 42 teams but are required to be 25 for the state championship. We are also sanctioned by KCBS.

Maybe one of you guys will like to check us out? lol. I'm not so much advertising the comp (brethren event btw) but I am hoping to create the model of what PA events should be.

bigdogphin
06-09-2011, 09:51 PM
20x20 minumum space (or I ain't cookin')...if I can't put my comp trailer on my spot...I ain't cookin'. If you want us to sample for a charity event...give us meat or re-imburse us for the cost of ours.

Organization and communication is paramount...if it's a load-in...load-out cluster f... I won't be back! We need to know EVERYTHING about the comp ahead of time...



This!

and

Don't say I can do one thing and then when I get all my stuff there that I can't! Then tell other teams they can a few hours later.

Bentley
06-09-2011, 11:38 PM
As an organizer I would not want 42 teams in the event running generators with all the noise cause lets face it - not everyone has a soft purring honda. Someone will have a noisy harbor freight generator and likely it will beside someone with a baby and a tent. Just sayin'. It's not worth saving $5 or $10 on your comp fee.



As a promoter, you would have to tell the team their generator does not meet guidelines...I am one of those teams with a Honda..So am I hearing you right, you can provide elecriticty to 42 teams for $420? Not bad...The promoters in CA say it cost a minumum five times that and sometimes ten...I would perfer that money go to prizes, or like I said the teams that need it pay for it, but if you can do it for under $500, Kudos!

Smokin Turkey
06-10-2011, 08:26 AM
As a promoter, you would have to tell the team their generator does not meet guidelines...I am one of those teams with a Honda..So am I hearing you right, you can provide elecriticty to 42 teams for $420? Not bad...The promoters in CA say it cost a minumum five times that and sometimes ten...I would perfer that money go to prizes, or like I said the teams that need it pay for it, but if you can do it for under $500, Kudos!

We actually have 6 - 200amp panels we own on the property and as for the cost, we arent going to charge for it as we consider it part of the infrastructure and sponsorships and VIP tix cover this. We arent doing this to generate income but to create something fun.

Maddog's
07-06-2011, 10:26 AM
You guys are great! We've been soliciting commments about the infrastructure and support and fees you have come to expect at comps, especially the question of what SIZE of a space to be assigned. (Size DOES matter!)
Any other comments are certainly appreciated!

jbrink01
07-06-2011, 10:32 AM
I expect whatever I pay for. I like 20x40 so I can leave the truck hooked up. I can live with 20 x 20 and unhook the truck.

jbrink01
07-06-2011, 10:33 AM
Of greater concern is power. A GOOD 30 amps is awesome, and if you gonna sell me 20, don't have 2 teams sharing a pair of duplex outlets!!

Alexa RnQ
07-06-2011, 11:40 AM
What size do I expect? Exactly as much as we've signed up for.

Which means, if we've signed up for a 20'x20' space to help out a contest that's tight, that does NOT mean 20' minus the guy next door pushing out his slide or hanging his back steps into our prep area.

I know it's hard to tell people "no", but I don't want to be put in the position of having to be the organizer's enforcer on spaces.

And sometimes, he's having to do that because that space is only 19.5'. I'm sorry, but you can't convince two popup canopies that they should be less than 10' each.

And please, talk to your fire inspectors before you do layouts. It sucks to be sold a small space and THEN be told that all cookers have to be 10' minimum from any canopy.

Ash dump, graywater dump, and portajohns are the non-negotiables. We can bring the water and electricity we need if it's necessary. I've seen one contest that thought five portajohns was sufficient for 20+ teams AND the public -- oh no, it surely wasn't.

The bright spot is that rarely have these issues come up over 80+ contests -- but when they do, it takes some of the shine off that contest for us.

Stoke&Smoke
07-06-2011, 02:54 PM
Can't speak for the folks with big RV's, but most of the ones we do are either 20x20 or 20-30. We can make do with 20x20 but prefer larger. The pop up is about 20' long when the top is up, and I like to keep my truck next to it, rather than have to go park elsewhere.

What Diva said is key as well! We were at a comp last year, got there a day ahead, set up, and were told the next day we'd need to move because we were overlapping into someone elses space. I took out a tape measure and went marker to marker, and it turned out the organizers had laid the sites out in something of a pie shape, so one site of "our spot" was 20', and the other end was barely 15. We didn't move

ClayHill
07-06-2011, 03:31 PM
Also I didn't mention it but all the competitors at our event get the same benefits as the VIP visitors like special seats at the bands, beer and wine tasting (free), kids area tickets, a non-sanctioned grilling event entry is included in the event fee, and I am personally the "mayor of BBQ town" and I walk around and make sure everyone is happy - and there is anything you need it gets done.

He's not kidding.......I saw his face about every hour, if I needed something or had questions and didnt get help, it was my own fault

riblette
07-06-2011, 03:35 PM
20X20 is perfect for us. More is always better but it’s a luxury

We can go 20X15 as long as we know in advance. Anything smaller is impractical.

Whenever we show up and have more space than advertized we are very pleased…to give us less space than advertised is a pretty good way to keep us from returning the following year. In general, that’s the case for just about everything…don’t advertise anything unless you are sure you can deliver. Grand promises may fill up your roster in the first year, but if they aren’t kept it creates huge credibility problems and word travels fast. Conversely…if we end up with a few unadvertised extras (flush toilets, showers, etc.. ) it goes a long way in assuring our return business.

Great thread. Thanks!

Hogtie N' Ride
07-06-2011, 05:13 PM
If you are starting a comp, look for a local campground. They usually have what cooks are looking for and most times have 20X40 spots with water and electric. It is much easier on your volunteers, it is easy finding bar tenders, but not many people are looking for experience dragging large cables and hoses.

Thoughts:
Grass is better than black top
Some shade is nice
water near by
at least 20 amp electric
ice available
showers saturday AM
centrally located judging area
avoid steep hills
easily can pull out after awards
free whisky

The Cosmic Pig
07-07-2011, 03:51 AM
I really like the comment about paying big money for 1st place wins in each category. Most of us have a decent chance of hitting one of these - much better than winning a GC or Reserve. It's hard to justify investing $400 to $500 in a competition to have a chance at winning only $750 or so for first place!
I would also suggest that contests are usually better if they're sanctioned. That way, at least one or two people at the competition has a clue as to how they should be organized! I have a horror story or two I could tell about the flip side of this coin!