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RangerJ
05-23-2011, 10:07 AM
Most of you really experienced cooks will already know this but this is the first time a granular look has been done at how blowing one meat can kill you or in this case Pappa Charlies

I'm still relatively new at this and honestly there was no real reason to look this close at things as initially I was just trying not to finish DAL, which grew to getting one call, which has grown to trying to finish top 10 and in this case top 7.

From this weekend's Conroe event, these are not where I placed but where I placed in relation to the top 5 teams, with those ahead in parentheses

Pappa Charlies Vs Top 5

Chicken - 2nd ( Habitual Smokers)
Ribs - 1st
Pork - 3rd ( Triple A Cookers, Slabs are Sexy)
Brisket - last ( all top 5)
Overall vs top 5 - last - 12th

Pappa Charlies Vs Top 7

Chicken - 2nd ( Habitual Smokers)
Ribs - 2nd ( Lil Earls)
Pork - 4th ( Barry and Erica, Triple A, Slabs Are Sexy)
Brisket - Last ( All top 7)
Overall vs Top 7- Last - 12th

For the record, the brisket was 24th overall or almost last.

It really shines a light on how consistency pays off. Blow one meat and it effects everything. Again, sure most of you know this but for those that don't hope it helps.

redneck cooker
05-23-2011, 10:11 AM
Ranger, I agree completely, with the point system KCBS uses, which I think is the best out there, cooking consistenly with all 4 meats is crucial...Nothin like texas Q...:becky:

chromesporty
05-23-2011, 10:19 AM
Ya oughta try tanking in 2 meat catagories. :doh::doh: It ain't a purty sight.:tsk:

RangerJ
05-23-2011, 10:25 AM
Ya oughta try tanking in 2 meat catagories. :doh::doh: It ain't a purty sight.:tsk:

Bet those two 2nd place checks helped ease that pain... :-D

Podge
05-23-2011, 10:40 AM
Just shows the importance to have all 4 catagories as best as you can do. One of them will be the worst, and you have to be prepared for that. GC's are usually lost and won in single digit scores. Every detail has to be accounted for.

Lake Dogs
05-23-2011, 10:52 AM
Different sanctioning bodies choose GC and RGC differently. However, yes, KCBS being a total scoring system, consistency wins, inconsistency will get you killed in a hurry.

Yakfishingfool
05-23-2011, 03:28 PM
On the other side of that is that doing great in two and ok in two is not as good as doing better in all four. It's all about the points baby!

Vince RnQ
05-23-2011, 04:38 PM
Very insightful, Wes. I was sorry to see that you didn't make the Top 7 but clearly you're on the right track with your cooking and getting that 4th meat to become more consistent isn't very far away.

RangerJ
05-23-2011, 05:11 PM
Very insightful, Wes. I was sorry to see that you didn't make the Top 7 but clearly you're on the right track with your cooking and getting that 4th meat to become more consistent isn't very far away.

A long time ago, in a land far, far away, someone once told me that consistency was the key to success. This same someone reinforced this point on mulitple occassions.

Who knew he had a small idea of what he was talking about? :wink:

Muzzlebrake
05-23-2011, 08:35 PM
in the Northeast its called "Boboing" a category

Still Smokin
05-23-2011, 08:49 PM
I learned my lesson this weekend, I finished 9th overall out of 28 teams, but I screwed the pooch on my staple meat, pork. I was also quite shocked to get 8th in Brisket using a $2.00 a pound USDA Select Brisky from Wally World ( I nailed the burnt ends).

I got a 3rd in Chicken, and had some great ribs, but tyhey needed about 30 minutes longer and I had charcoal issues and had to ration between 2 cookers, ended up 14th.

Not bad for my 1st KCBS and 6th comp ever.

RangerJ
05-23-2011, 09:02 PM
in the Northeast its called "Boboing" a category

as in the Stern Whack Packer - Bobo ?

Muzzlebrake
05-23-2011, 10:29 PM
as in the Stern Whack Packer - Bobo ?

as in Mr. Bobo's Traveling BBQ All Stars, they did it a couple of times, dropped one meat that cost them a GC/RGC and it just kind of stuck

big matt
05-23-2011, 11:36 PM
A long time ago, in a land far, far away, someone once told me that consistency was the key to success. This same someone reinforced this point on mulitple occassions.

Who knew he had a small idea of what he was talking about? :wink:

I know exactly what your talking about!..we finally put it all together this weekend with 4 calls(first time ever)..that dam chicken killed us all last year,consistency,consistency,consistency..pays off!

chromesporty
05-23-2011, 11:46 PM
Bet those two 2nd place checks helped ease that pain... :-D
It helped, but I would have traded those 2 second place checks for no money and a top 7 finish. But, I learned a valuable lesson for cookin' KCBS. It ain't the same as Texas organizations. Consistency is key.

Crash
05-24-2011, 01:03 AM
Man Wes, that is the straight up truth. Our second to last AZ competition had us 3rd CHX, 3rd Ribs, 8th Pork in a 34 team contest. The DAL brisket dropped us quickly to 14th overall.

It hurt even more when the rep came over after the contest to inform us we were in 1st heading in to brisket.

The good teams are truly models of consistency across the board.