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riblette
05-15-2011, 01:50 PM
We're a little lost. Our chicken appearance scores for this turn in: 7,7,8,6,8,7 - no comment cards. (They were actually more uniform in size than the photo indicates...the angle destorts the size.)

What do you guys think??? We welcome any and all suggestions, or comments.



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j3nks73
05-15-2011, 02:42 PM
Literal blind judging? I don't know they look better than that to me.

sitnfat
05-15-2011, 04:32 PM
I am no expert but I don't go three across I go three down and they all look shaped a little different. I had what a competitors gf called fake looking ribs a few weekends ago. She said they looked so perfect they looked fake I got 7,7,7,7,8,8 on appearance I usually get 9s. So who knows

Smokesman
05-15-2011, 05:25 PM
Tough one! I think that is a very good looking box but something about it isn't popping. Perhaps it is the picture but I would give it an 8. The parsley looks a little pale and wilted.

Ford
05-15-2011, 05:30 PM
Well being an FBA guy now the box looks a little empty. You trim small enough that I think you could put 9 of those in the box. Give it a try.

Dan - 3eyzbbq
05-15-2011, 06:20 PM
Ahhhh yea, what? Looks good to me.

jbrink01
05-15-2011, 06:37 PM
More meat, glossier look (did you go back to cooker after saucing - if so, sauce again lightly or don't set the sauce), parsley is not really even, i see "bumps" on the meat which I assume is rub. Maybe grind it a bit?

CivilWarBBQ
05-15-2011, 08:03 PM
The six is out of line. Flip it to a nine and reverse the sevens and eights and that's about what I'd expect for that box.

jbrink01
05-15-2011, 08:46 PM
B4 mine goes in the box, I lay it out on a cutting board. I then arrange the pieces by size to get an even look. Then put them in the box.

watertowerbbq
05-15-2011, 10:01 PM
Looking at them from a judges perspective, they don't look like a "normal" piece of chicken.

bigdogphin
05-15-2011, 10:21 PM
Looking at them from a judges perspective, they don't look like a "normal" piece of chicken.


This! I am all for trimming but the pieces don't look like chicken and that makes them look less appetizing.

Slamdunkpro
05-15-2011, 10:42 PM
Muffin pan chicken?

Q-Dat
05-15-2011, 11:28 PM
They look good to me.

I am new to competing, but I'm predicting a trend towards more natural looking chicken. Not to say that one is better than the other.

riblette
05-15-2011, 11:43 PM
Muffin pan chicken?

Nope, just trimmed a bit...maybe a bit too much.

Thanks to all y'all for you input!

Still Smokin
05-16-2011, 09:25 AM
Tough one! I think that is a very good looking box but something about it isn't popping. Perhaps it is the picture but I would give it an 8. The parsley looks a little pale and wilted.

Is it a parsley judging comp?

jbrink01
05-16-2011, 09:39 AM
Is it a parsley judging comp?

Of course not, but perception is reality. A beautifully tanned hot chick standing in front of a beige garbage pile is not as appealing as the same chick on a white sandy beach. EVERY detail matters!

NRA4Life
05-16-2011, 10:08 AM
Looking at them from a judges perspective, they don't look like a "normal" piece of chicken.

That is exactly what I was thinking.

NRA4Life
05-16-2011, 10:09 AM
Of course not, but perception is reality. A beautifully tanned hot chick standing in front of a beige garbage pile is not as appealing as the same chick on a white sandy beach. EVERY detail matters!

Good analogy.

Lake Dogs
05-16-2011, 10:45 AM
I agree with Ford, perhaps having 9 in there would've helped a little. Otherwise, it looks fine to me, for a solid 8 minimum. I think you just landed on a tough table, frankly. It happens. Being first out of the shoot isn't good, some judges score something in the middle to give them room to go up or down. Being behind one that was perhaps a drop dead 9 also hurts. If you're not as perfect as them it's tough to get that 9 or sometimes even the 8...

I wouldn't read too much into the score.

LongTong
05-16-2011, 01:16 PM
Solid 8 maybe 9

Just the opinion of this KCBS CBJ w/10 contests under the belt who tends to score on the higher side because he also cooks and knows what it takes to make an outstanding box as the one in question....:crazy:

Big Mike's BBQ
05-16-2011, 02:51 PM
I would agree that the rub, if that is what is causing the little bumbs be ground finer. Also agree with chichen looking a littel dull.
Ford is right fill that box with meat. While this is not a parsely judging comp you do put it in there for a reason, to make the meat look better. I have had many judges tell me that areas of green between cuts of meat look bad but areas of green around the outside look good. Fill the box with meat and make sure there is a nice border of parsely around the outside. Soak parsely in a little ice water to freshen it up right before turn in putting in the box. by adding more to box you can cover up imperfections in meat, or hid them with parsely around edges. Bottom bump on piece #2 and right edge bump on #6. That is what I see that judges have told me that they don't like to see in boxes.

Big Mike

roksmith
05-16-2011, 03:18 PM
Is it a parsley judging comp?

If it's in the box..right or wrong, it's being judged.

Having said that, I don't think there is enough wrong with the parsley that you would lose anything for it.

I do think, with thighs that size, I'd probably fill the box. You could fit 9 in there.

The color is throwing me off a bit. It seems to look a little orange.. more like a buffalo sauce. Of course there is no standard for color, but if it makes it look less appealing, you lose points. I also like more of a sheen, but that's also more of a personal opinion.

I'd have been between a 7 and an 8.

Hub
05-17-2011, 06:30 AM
A solid 8 from me. Hard to tell with a photo but the surface of the skin looks grainy which is less appealing than smooth. Rub? If so, try grinding it in a coffee grinder then "dusting" then a final very light coat of either sauce or EVOO depending on your taste parameters.

Meat Burner
05-17-2011, 10:50 PM
Not sure what it is but it just looks strange. Too little meat in the box. I don't know but it just looks odd.

Bentley
05-18-2011, 02:23 AM
9, there is no room for improvment.

msavard
05-18-2011, 11:07 AM
Tough one! I think that is a very good looking box but something about it isn't popping. Perhaps it is the picture but I would give it an 8. The parsley looks a little pale and wilted.

THIS is one of many reasons I prefer MBN over KCBS. When you're getting clipped because of wilted parsley in a blind BBQ box there's something wrong :-D

Jacked UP BBQ
05-18-2011, 12:01 PM
Look small and out of shape.

Sledneck
05-18-2011, 12:55 PM
THe texture looks like that of a basketball

big brother smoke
05-18-2011, 01:06 PM
After reading this thread, I now know why scores are all over the place at times.:tape:

Capn Kev
05-18-2011, 01:16 PM
More meat, glossier look (did you go back to cooker after saucing - if so, sauce again lightly or don't set the sauce), parsley is not really even, i see "bumps" on the meat which I assume is rub. Maybe grind it a bit?

I agree with Jeff. More color, and more gloss would be good. The bumps on the skin are a turn-off for me. Chicken size/shape looks fine to me.

Contracted Cookers
05-18-2011, 06:02 PM
Looking at them from a judges perspective, they don't look like a "normal" piece of chicken.
what does a normal piece look like.