PDA

View Full Version : Weight needed to hold down canopy


Rob Albach
05-15-2011, 01:27 PM
Hi All,

Going to Vegas this weekend with a standard 10' x 10' pop-up, will set up in paved parking lot...In your experience what is the ideal weight on each corner to keep it from blowing away. I was thinking 4 two gallon containers(80 lbs) per corner....what do you think too much or too little.

HarleyEarl
05-15-2011, 01:42 PM
I use one cider block per leg and have seen people use a 5 gallon bucket filled with water per leg - both seem to work well out here with the Midwest winds. Your idea of using 80 pounds per corner may be a little over-kill, but it's better to be safe than sorry. Good luck in Vegas!

BLUECHIP BBQ
05-15-2011, 02:08 PM
we use 5 gallon buckets filled with water, easy to pack, always worked for us.

huminie
05-15-2011, 02:22 PM
I use 5 gallon buckets as well. They travel light, pack well, can be useful and are easily filled and empty when needed. Get lids and some rope to tie them to the canopy and you are good to go. No need to carry extra weight around from home to contest and back again IMO.

gmholler
05-15-2011, 02:45 PM
Saw a guy at a contest this weekend using 25lb workout weights, one on each pole. The buckets with water have always served us well, tho...

Lynn H.

Rich Parker
05-15-2011, 03:04 PM
Another vote for 5 gallon buckets filled with water if on pavement. If water is easily available then when the wind picks up you can add buckets as necessarily. Good luck!

redneck cooker
05-15-2011, 03:06 PM
I also use 25lb weights put leg thru hole in weight works great..

southernsmoker
05-15-2011, 03:09 PM
+ 5 Gal buckets..

Stacks
05-15-2011, 03:31 PM
+ 5 gal buckets

bmanMA
05-15-2011, 03:46 PM
yup buckets. dont like hauling extra weight when you can get water at the comp. just got nailed by weather at Lexington, MA a few weekends ago, and buckets (supplied by Lowes for the teams!) worked great.

Smokesman
05-15-2011, 05:20 PM
Buckets here as well when on asphalt - aren't the prettiest but do work well and very portable. Heavy duty stakes when on grass or gravel.

RangerJ
05-15-2011, 05:36 PM
Hi All,

Going to Vegas this weekend with a standard 10' x 10' pop-up, will set up in paved parking lot...In your experience what is the ideal weight on each corner to keep it from blowing away. I was thinking 4 two gallon containers(80 lbs) per corner....what do you think too much or too little.


I use the 5 gallon buckets from Home Depot as well.

because I had to carry it on my back for many years, a Gallon of water is 8lbs and some change. you could probably drop that to 2 2gallon containers per corner and be fine.

Good luck in Vegas!

Ford
05-15-2011, 05:38 PM
This weekend I saw 6 big guys and a lady all holding onto a canopy that was tied to the trailer on one side. Took all of them to keep it from flying. The guys from Sonny's BBQ had a 10x20 that they were doing promotion stuff under and it went flyinh and was a twisted piece of trash when it landed. They had staked all 6 legs to the ground.

We barely got our awnings donw before it got crazy. Horizontal rain and one person thought they saw rotation. 3:30 pm and that was the end of the festival just like that.

For your average storm those 5 gallon pails work. 2 per leg. Just remember it's better to use water than concrete or sand. When those 75 mph winds hit and the canopy takes off at least the buckets will dump once in the air and are not additional projectiles heading to somebodies truck or at a person. An 80 lb concrete pail can make a mess of a truck window, door, hood, etc.

Dan - 3eyzbbq
05-15-2011, 06:17 PM
Couple other ideas. I've seen some people use Hilti guns, but I don't know how the organizer feels about that....

If your coolers are big and heavy, use those as a tie down in addition to the buckets, weights, etc. Sometimes its good to have a center tie down in heavy winds rather than just the corners.

If you can have your truck in the space, I've used ratchet straps and the truck tie downs before.

If all that fails, have an extra canopy not setup for when the weather passes.

The_Kapn
05-15-2011, 06:30 PM
This weekend I saw 6 big guys and a lady all holding onto a canopy that was tied to the trailer on one side. Took all of them to keep it from flying. The guys from Sonny's BBQ had a 10x20 that they were doing promotion stuff under and it went flyinh and was a twisted piece of trash when it landed. They had staked all 6 legs to the ground.

We barely got our awnings donw before it got crazy. Horizontal rain and one person thought they saw rotation. 3:30 pm and that was the end of the festival just like that.

For your average storm those 5 gallon pails work. 2 per leg. Just remember it's better to use water than concrete or sand. When those 75 mph winds hit and the canopy takes off at least the buckets will dump once in the air and are not additional projectiles heading to somebodies truck or at a person. An 80 lb concrete pail can make a mess of a truck window, door, hood, etc.

That was a wild one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I heard that Whiskey Bend lost 3 canopys ????
I saw several "flying by"..

BOT--the best thing we ever found was the water buckets for all the reasons given.
Just gotta take those suckers down when winds go over 50 or so!!!!

TIM

nthole
05-15-2011, 06:44 PM
Based on the last contest I was at, 600 lbs of sandbags, 1 truck, 3 coolers and 3 200lb humans.

That will keep it mostly down.

We put 2 50 lb sandbags on each corner. Carry two extra two put on the bottom of any sides we strap on.

Rob Albach
05-15-2011, 06:46 PM
Thanks all for the many replies...Looks like I'm going with 3 2.5 gallon containers(75lbs)(duct taped together) per corner... I like the 5 gallon bucket idea but not too keen on trying to track down a water source...(or haul it too far) I have a bum knee just bareley gettin around as it is. Between my truck and trailer I have enough space for the containers. Thanks again...:)

Smoke'n Ice
05-15-2011, 10:56 PM
Might I suggest you put your name and address on the canopy so whom ever finds it, can mail it back :wink:

rksylves
05-16-2011, 07:28 AM
Yeah, that was the wildest I've seen yet. Whiskey Bent lost 3 canopies, I know of at least 3 other teams that lost canopies. I got mine down about 15 minutes before it hit.

I will be buying 4 five gallon buckets this week but I agree with Tim, get them down if at all possible before the really bad stuff rolls in.

Russ

Burk504
05-16-2011, 07:51 AM
At salisbury this year we used four buckets and a heavy gust picked the entire thing up and moved it several feet. The landing bent one of the legs and we were just 2 minutes from taking it down. :sad:

Definitely take them down when it gets crazy!

Funtimebbq
05-16-2011, 08:59 AM
Spent last Sat. night in Vegas. The wind was howling all night long. The drive home yesterday was brutal also. I'll be taking the EZ-Up sandbags and 5 gallon buckets just in case.

Benny

Stoke&Smoke
05-16-2011, 01:18 PM
If it gets THAT windy, you might want to take the roof off to save your EZ-Up. Had we done that at Elk Grove a couple years ago, as others did, ours wouldn't have broken. Last thing I want is for my canopy to get loose and hurt someone or their property! We started using 3 foot sections of 4" PVC pipe, filled with concrete with an I-bolt at one end. They seem to work really well, but once you get to near-tornadic wind, I think it's best to pull the roof. (assuming you are able at that point)

TN_BBQ
05-16-2011, 04:22 PM
Thanks all for the many replies...Looks like I'm going with 3 2.5 gallon containers(75lbs)(duct taped together) per corner... I like the 5 gallon bucket idea but not too keen on trying to track down a water source...(or haul it too far) I have a bum knee just bareley gettin around as it is. Between my truck and trailer I have enough space for the containers. Thanks again...:)

OK

I know Vegas is in the desert, but won't they have a water source for you? Interesting.

I've seen folks make anchor weights out of PVC pipes filled with concrete (looked like they were 4" or 6" pipes and about a foot long). They had an eye-bolt in there so they could use a rope.

Rob Albach
05-16-2011, 07:18 PM
OK

I know Vegas is in the desert, but won't they have a water source for you? Interesting.

I've seen folks make anchor weights out of PVC pipes filled with concrete (looked like they were 4" or 6" pipes and about a foot long). They had an eye-bolt in there so they could use a rope.

Water at a competition is a pretty big deal!! I'm sure they'll work out the water/ash/grease/trash plans right after they figure out the intense CRAZY dynamics of publishing a team list :roll:

I've seen those PVC pipe setups, they look pretty good...

HawgNationBBQ
05-16-2011, 07:41 PM
We use four cinder blocks.

NorthwestBBQ
05-16-2011, 08:36 PM
They sell sand-filled canopy weights specifically for this purpose. They are tall and thin and don't take up to much room at the corners. In an emergency, remove the fabric cover and let it fly.

http://www.ivgstores.com/prodimages-cdls/KCY/kcy-inawb400-L.jpg

CivilWarBBQ
05-17-2011, 01:22 AM
Agree that water buckets are the best solution. Fixed weights may look prettier, but a four bucks a gallon for fuel I'll go with the lightweight option all day long.

smalls65
05-17-2011, 07:35 AM
They sell sand-filled canopy weights specifically for this purpose. They are tall and thin and don't take up to much room at the corners. In an emergency, remove the fabric cover and let it fly.

http://www.ivgstores.com/prodimages-cdls/KCY/kcy-inawb400-L.jpg

What he said!!! I got mine from the EZ-UP website..about 39 bucks for two...But they are worth it!!! :thumb:

MikeR
05-17-2011, 08:12 AM
Had a contest in April that got a little crazy- 5 gallon bucket of water on each leg and they were still lifting. Finally attached a bungee cord to the center, pulled up a chair, and as "SpeedRcer1" noted- "I looked like a kid holding a baloon". All our equipment made it but some teams lost some canopies.