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eggzlot
05-10-2011, 10:49 AM
Not sure if anyone saw this, but I have seen some threads about the rising price of Waygu from some farmers.

I got this today - Williams Sonoma now has their own mail order "butcher shop" and they list Waygu Briskets for $85. The farm is Oregon-based Yamaya.

http://www.williams-sonoma.com/shop/food/food-meat-poultry/?cm_type=lnav (all products)

Waygu link: http://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/washugyu-beef-brisket/?pkey=cfood-meat-poultry%7Cmeatbeef

I am looking to get into competitions, have not done one yet. But this seemed like a competitive price from what I've seen elsewhere. They also had some other interesting products too but like usual WS stuff, rather expensive.

Arlin_MacRae
05-10-2011, 10:52 AM
Interesting, a cross between Wagyu and Black Angus.

musicmanryann
05-10-2011, 11:04 AM
Interesting, a cross between Wagyu and Black Angus.

It is my understanding that a majority of the Wagyu in the market is crossed in this way. This includes SRF.

Big Poppa
05-10-2011, 11:56 AM
yes you are correct We saw this and according to our weight calcs they are charging 8 bucks a pound delivered....

huminie
05-10-2011, 11:59 AM
Not sure if anyone saw this, but I have seen some threads about the rising price of Waygu from some farmers.

I got this today - Williams Sonoma now has their own mail order "butcher shop" and they list Waygu Briskets for $85. The farm is Oregon-based Yamaya.

http://www.williams-sonoma.com/shop/food/food-meat-poultry/?cm_type=lnav (all products)

Waygu link: http://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/washugyu-beef-brisket/?pkey=cfood-meat-poultry%7Cmeatbeef

I am looking to get into competitions, have not done one yet. But this seemed like a competitive price from what I've seen elsewhere. They also had some other interesting products too but like usual WS stuff, rather expensive.

You don't need to use Waygu to be competitive. Trust me.

eggzlot
05-10-2011, 12:01 PM
I did everything but enter my credit card # in, seems like $13.50 to deliver to NJ.

Item Description

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Washugyu Beef Brisket


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n/a $85.00 1 $85.00

$85.00
Merchandise:

$13.50
Shipping and Processing Charges:

$98.50

RX2006JE
05-10-2011, 12:07 PM
the shipping on the site for a brisket order shipped to alabama was only $14 if that is right that is a whole lot cheaper than SRF or Strube Ranch

RX2006JE
05-10-2011, 12:09 PM
you could also sign up for a program pay $30 and have free shipping for a year worth it if you ordered more than 2 during a year

Brew-B-Q
05-10-2011, 02:55 PM
It says it is shipped fresh - I've never ordered meat to be shipped to my house, but I would think that they would want to overnight or 2-day it in a cooler, and that seems like it would cost more than $14.

swamprb
05-10-2011, 04:33 PM
It can't be gift wrapped.

bam
05-10-2011, 05:27 PM
the shipping on the site for a brisket order shipped to alabama was only $14 if that is right that is a whole lot cheaper than SRF or Strube Ranch

Sounds like the 30$ free shipping for a year is a good deal. Brisket from srf shipping 61$.

Brewer
05-11-2011, 12:28 AM
Check it out and let us know what the quality is like. It may offer a good solution for the east coast. I know shipping from SRF or Strube can get out of control shipping to the east.

I can get KBA (Kobe Beef of America) locally for $4 lb and SRF is very cheap to ship to western WA. So it may not work for me....

Pay the $30 for the years worth of shipping and use the hell out of it. At $85 a brisket, you'd be getting a solid deal for good quality wagyu.

Big Poppa
05-11-2011, 12:32 AM
did you guys check the weight out on the brisket?

Brewer
05-11-2011, 12:53 AM
did you guys check the weight out on the brisket?

Great question - I assumed it was a 16-17lb, but it may be a bad assumption...

BBQchef33
05-11-2011, 01:03 AM
i didnt see where the weight was listed.. anyone find that?

swamprb
05-11-2011, 01:18 AM
i didnt see where the weight was listed.. anyone find that?

10-13 lbs Fresh

BBQchef33
05-11-2011, 01:34 AM
kinda small.... but may be worth a shot for that price with minimal shipping compared to what I have dealt with in the past.

huminie
05-11-2011, 01:35 AM
So, do you guys really think it is a good idea for someone who has never competed to be internet ordering waygu brisket for comps?

BBQchef33
05-11-2011, 02:36 AM
good point.. id say no... i havent used them in comps in 3 years after getting 3 bad batches in a row. Marbling was so heavy that i had trouble getting decent slices for the judges.. Wagyu isnt a guarantee you get the walk. I did no better, no worse when I used them compared to CABS or Sterling.

But, the price on these arent bad for what I was paying... $300 for 2. shipping was 90-110$ overnighted.

Rick Hamilton
05-11-2011, 07:43 AM
This is cheaper than SRF?

William Sonoma is $98.50 for a 10-13 pound brisket. Works out to $7.58-$9.85/lb.

SRF is $132.50 for a 17-20+ pound brisket. Works out to $7.79-$6.62/lb. I have seen 22lb briskets from SRF and that is $6.02/lb. This includes next day air shipping with a styrofoam box and 6 reuseable freezer packs.

SRF is cheaper.

HawgNationBBQ
05-11-2011, 08:43 AM
If I read the “terms” correctly, you could pay $30 to join their Reserve Club. This offers you free shipping for a year, after you pay the $30. If you plan to use them multiple times, this could work out to be a good deal.

Ray U
05-11-2011, 09:59 AM
It is my understanding that a majority of the Wagyu in the market is crossed in this way. This includes SRF.

This product comes from Mishima, the genetic % of Wagyu to Angus is higher . It was explained to me this way by one of the ranchers involved.

SRF = 100% Wagyu bull + Angus Cow
Mishima = 100% Wagyu bull + 50/50 Wagyu/Angus Cow

I personaly find it much richer than SRF and the fats are even softer

eggzlot
05-11-2011, 03:46 PM
huminie: I have not competed before, and not sure if I'd order Waygu if and when I start out. It is expensive, and not sure the benefits outweigh the costs involved.

I was lucky enough to go to Myron's school (not starting a war here which naming Myron usually does in these parts) but that is where I found out about using Waygu in competitions. Myron mentioned SRF so I casually looked them up to see the prices when I got home from the school.

Since I am on the WS email list I saw them announce the butcher store so I looked to see all of the products, I was not looking just for briskets but at their steaks and other items. I saw the Waygu brisket, I read their info page stating it is used for competitions, so I thought this forum may want to be notified - maybe it is a deal, maybe it is not, I wouldn't know :-) Just putting it out there for discussion.

For the $30 shipping for a year, if you order a lot, brisket or otherwise, it is a very competitive offer I would think price wise, if the quality is up there.

Pig Headed
05-11-2011, 04:23 PM
I saw 10-13 lbs. I think a 10 lb brisket would be smaller than I would like.

musicmanryann
05-11-2011, 05:45 PM
This product comes from Mishima, the genetic % of Wagyu to Angus is higher . It was explained to me this way by one of the ranchers involved.

SRF = 100% Wagyu bull + Angus Cow
Mishima = 100% Wagyu bull + 50/50 Wagyu/Angus Cow

I personaly find it much richer than SRF and the fats are even softer

That makes sense considering how rich 100% Wagyu is. I actually prefer my producer's 50% mix compared to his 75%, but that is just me.

The point to know for everyone else is not all Wagyu is created equal. You need to speak to the producer to know the mix as there are no government standards or regs on Wagyu breeding as there is for Angus.

Brewer
05-11-2011, 08:57 PM
This is cheaper than SRF?

William Sonoma is $98.50 for a 10-13 pound brisket. Works out to $7.58-$9.85/lb.

SRF is $132.50 for a 17-20+ pound brisket. Works out to $7.79-$6.62/lb. I have seen 22lb briskets from SRF and that is $6.02/lb. This includes next day air shipping with a styrofoam box and 6 reuseable freezer packs.

SRF is cheaper.

Not entirely accurate...But your conclusion is spot on. You're factoring in shipping to your location. I can get a 16-17lb for $95 - 15% = $80.75 + $15 shipping = $95.75 to me :becky:

For those who don't know about the SRFBBQ discount; you can use the coupon code: SRFBBQ to get 15% off of your order. :thumb:

Wtd03
08-13-2013, 09:48 AM
Has anyone tried this brisket? How was the flavor? How does it compare to SRF or Strube?

Smokin Pete43
08-13-2013, 12:17 PM
It said about 10 lbs

cpw
08-13-2013, 12:53 PM
Not entirely accurate...But your conclusion is spot on. You're factoring in shipping to your location. I can get a 16-17lb for $95 - 15% = $80.75 + $15 shipping = $95.75 to me :becky:

For those who don't know about the SRFBBQ discount; you can use the coupon code: SRFBBQ to get 15% off of your order. :thumb:

Just to see what the prices came up as, I tried your code and it didn't work.

And just for comparison sake, a 14-17 lb (the last 2 I ordered were both just over 14 lbs) brisket from SRF shipped to GA is $182.27, which works out to be a little over $12 per pound.

BasicPatrick
08-13-2013, 01:08 PM
I do beleive true graded Prime can do as well as Wagyu however here in MA to buy either is within $20 of each other. The only way for me to cut the cost of top quality Brisket would be to pay case prices for either however with no way to get my money back from the case briskets that are not competition sized or shaped the cost of eating the not comp usable briskets does not justify thew savings of buying unculled sizes by the case....but that is here in Ma where top quality briskets are not common items.

I definatley think a brand new team should learn on choice briskets before using the more expensive brands....but then again before we made the switch we were cooking in the middle to bottom and immediately after making the switch we went to middle up in placing. Once we really started to learn to cook the good stuff we now are in the top ten frequently so as usual it is a judgment call and mostly based on a teams budget....in my opinion.

kenthanson
08-13-2013, 05:12 PM
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