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smokinit
02-15-2011, 02:41 PM
A little bird told me about a new comp coming to NY think past Lake Placid:becky:

ique
02-15-2011, 02:53 PM
Who knew NY was such a Comp BBQ hotbed? How many state championships is NY going to have this year?

timzcardz
02-15-2011, 03:08 PM
Who knew NY was such a Comp BBQ hotbed? How many state championships is NY going to have this year?

It only makes sense considering the The BBQ Brethren are headquartered here!

Bbq Bubba
02-15-2011, 03:40 PM
A little bird told me about a new comp coming to NY think past Lake Placid:becky:

Cooking in your backyard does not constitute a competition. :rolleyes:

dreed
02-15-2011, 03:57 PM
Past Lake Placid, That is a hike pulling a trailer

Scottie
02-15-2011, 04:04 PM
isn't that Canada if it's north of Lake Placid? :rolleyes:

smokinit
02-15-2011, 04:19 PM
Cooking in your backyard does not constitute a competition. :rolleyes:
Bite me Farker:moon:

smokinit
02-15-2011, 04:21 PM
isn't that Canada if it's north of Lake Placid? :rolleyes:

There is another stop before there. Thats all for now.

BBQchef33
02-15-2011, 04:22 PM
Actually, its 2, one near albany, one near buffalo.

:)

Who knew NY was such a Comp BBQ hotbed? How many state championships is NY going to have this year?

last count was 9, likely 11, possibly 12.

smokinit
02-15-2011, 04:25 PM
Actually, its 2, one near albany, one near buffalo.

:)

Didn't here about another one near Albany. Close to Troy?

biggs98
02-15-2011, 04:44 PM
Can we specify UPSTATE NY in the title next time. I was Waayyy too excited to open the thread only to find out it's going to be in Canada :doh: I'm thinking we need another comp in the 5boroughs/LI area....Just my.02

Anchors Smokeshop
02-15-2011, 05:22 PM
Can we specify UPSTATE NY in the title next time. I was Waayyy too excited to open the thread only to find out it's going to be in Canada :doh: I'm thinking we need another comp in the 5boroughs/LI area....Just my.02

I agree! Lower New York (NYC & LI) needs to secede from Upstate New York and form the 51st state: Newer York!

motoeric
02-15-2011, 05:27 PM
I was Waayyy too excited to open the thread only to find out it's going to be in Canada :doh: I'm thinking we need another comp in the 5boroughs/LI area....Just my.02

What a coincidence. Stay tuned for a possible announcement about an event in May on Long Island.

Eric

Muzzlebrake
02-15-2011, 05:32 PM
Who knew NY was such a Comp BBQ hotbed? How many state championships is NY going to have this year?

What a coincidence. Stay tuned for a possible announcement about an event in May on Long Island.

Eric


and to think I was just about to say, don't worry there will be another couple of shake and bake championships......:doh:

brockportbbqfest
02-15-2011, 06:29 PM
Yes two new comps run by Arlie Bragg..not really happy about this as one is the same day as our event and the other is the week prior. Seems like KCBS wanted the cash y so they keep booking comps. Gonna ikill us little guys. Just trying to make a buck for charity. I am sure Arlie does a good job, but jeez...couldn't have gone to Georgia or Kentucky that weekend?

www.brockportbbqfest.com we will treat our competitors right!!

smoke-n-my-i's
02-15-2011, 06:40 PM
Can we specify UPSTATE NY in the title next time. I was Waayyy too excited to open the thread only to find out it's going to be in Canada :doh: I'm thinking we need another comp in the 5boroughs/LI area....Just my.02

I agree! Lower New York (NYC & LI) needs to secede from Upstate New York and form the 51st state: Newer York!

OK, bash me if you want.... but here is my peave..... when you say NEW YORK, you mean state, when you say NC, you mean NORTH CAROLINA..... my point is, if you mean a city, state the city, not the state. NEW YORK, NEW YORK, is New York (city) in the state of New York..... get the picture here.

So when someone asks me where I was born, I usually say, a little town in New York state..... then they know. If I was to just say New York, well....... I am going to my corner now.

motoeric
02-15-2011, 08:11 PM
and to think I was just about to say, don't worry there will be another couple of shake and bake championships......:doh:


What the heck is a shake and bake championship?

Eric

Anchors Smokeshop
02-15-2011, 08:12 PM
OK, bash me if you want.... but here is my peave..... when you say NEW YORK, you mean state, when you say NC, you mean NORTH CAROLINA..... my point is, if you mean a city, state the city, not the state. NEW YORK, NEW YORK, is New York (city) in the state of New York..... get the picture here.

So when someone asks me where I was born, I usually say, a little town in New York state..... then they know. If I was to just say New York, well....... I am going to my corner now.

If you ask any one from New York, whether it be Upstate NY, NYC or Long Island, they will all say that NY should be broken up into 2 states.
It's like 2 completely different worlds.
I wish they would make Long Island a city, so I could at least say I'm from Long Island, NY instead of Seaford, NY.
Most people from outside of NY have heard of Long Island, so it could be considered a major city.
Most people from outside of NY have NOT heard of the town of Seaford, on Long Island, in New York.

I'm stoned so I may be rambling. I hope I made a point.

Red Valley BBQ
02-15-2011, 08:31 PM
OK, bash me if you want.... but here is my peave..... when you say NEW YORK, you mean state, when you say NC, you mean NORTH CAROLINA..... my point is, if you mean a city, state the city, not the state. NEW YORK, NEW YORK, is New York (city) in the state of New York..... get the picture here.

So when someone asks me where I was born, I usually say, a little town in New York state..... then they know. If I was to just say New York, well....... I am going to my corner now.

Who names a city in the state the same name as the state?? You're just asking for confusion. But what do I know...I may be moving to Ohio, OH next week, or was it West Virginia, WV?? :doh:

HandsomeSwede
02-15-2011, 09:31 PM
I know talk of one in or around Plattsburgh brewing. The doozie is the guy in Syracuse who called me and told he has something working the same weekedn as the Wilson comp: back to back KCBS comps on Saturday and Sunday.

If they all make it that means 13 stops on the Empire State series.

BBQchef33
02-15-2011, 09:53 PM
Yes two new comps run by Arlie Bragg..not really happy about this as one is the same day as our event and the other is the week prior. Seems like KCBS wanted the cash y so they keep booking comps. Gonna ikill us little guys. Just trying to make a buck for charity. I am sure Arlie does a good job, but jeez...couldn't have gone to Georgia or Kentucky that weekend?

www.brockportbbqfest.com (http://www.brockportbbqfest.com) we will treat our competitors right!!


The new contests are sponsored by a radio station(syndicate). They are having it in their broadcast areas(outside NY also).

Dont think we(NY) have the team saturation to support that many contests so close together unless folks are ready to marathon. Years ago we needed more contests, now we need mode teams!

Isnt one of them going up against harpoon?

HandsomeSwede
02-15-2011, 11:31 PM
There is one weekend here in Upstate NY with two KCBS comps within 1 hour of each other. Another weekend with two KCBS comps on back-to-back days in the same location.

You could start in mid-June, cook a sanctioned comp every weekend through the end of July and never leave the state - and the majority have "Governor's Proclamations/State Championships"

Oh yeah, then there are April, May, August and September which all have their own various Empire State Series/State Championship/KCBS events.

Guess I don't need to worry about gas money as I'm looking at 8 KCBS comps within 1 1/2 hours drive, another 2 comps about 3 hours away. Summer booked.

TooSaucedToPork
02-16-2011, 05:04 AM
There is one weekend here in Upstate NY with two KCBS comps within 1 hour of each other. Another weekend with two KCBS comps on back-to-back days in the same location.

You could start in mid-June, cook a sanctioned comp every weekend through the end of July and never leave the state - and the majority have "Governor's Proclamations/State Championships"

Oh yeah, then there are April, May, August and September which all have their own various Empire State Series/State Championship/KCBS events.

Guess I don't need to worry about gas money as I'm looking at 8 KCBS comps within 1 1/2 hours drive, another 2 comps about 3 hours away. Summer booked.

Hey,
Is there a list of all these NY contests, I saw the Empire State Championship List, but if there are more contests I might wanna amend my schedule...Looks like I moved up here at the right time :-)

Neil

ique
02-16-2011, 06:22 AM
There is one weekend here in Upstate NY with two KCBS comps within 1 hour of each other.

Someone needs to change the turn-in day so teams could cook both contests

CBQ
02-16-2011, 06:41 AM
I wish they would make Long Island a city, so I could at least say I'm from Long Island, NY instead of Seaford, NY

I tell people I am from Rhode Island, they ask how I like living in New York. Some of you may have seen me wearing a t-shirt explaining that RI is not in New York, and is not actually an island, either.

Total RI comps: 0.

Could we borrow one of those NY comps maybe?

Muzzlebrake
02-16-2011, 07:43 AM
What the heck is a shake and bake championship?

Eric

Thats the term I use for a contest that is hastliy put together and announced shortly before the contest.

If you ask any one from New York, whether it be Upstate NY, NYC or Long Island, they will all say that NY should be broken up into 2 states.
It's like 2 completely different worlds.
I wish they would make Long Island a city, so I could at least say I'm from Long Island, NY instead of Seaford, NY.
Most people from outside of NY have heard of Long Island, so it could be considered a major city.
Most people from outside of NY have NOT heard of the town of Seaford, on Long Island, in New York.

I'm stoned so I may be rambling. I hope I made a point.

I don't think it should be split into 2 states. Most people have also heard of the Adirondacks but that doesn't make that a city either.

Who names a city in the state the same name as the state?? You're just asking for confusion. But what do I know...I may be moving to Ohio, OH next week, or was it West Virginia, WV?? :doh:

the city so nice they named it twice :becky:

Muzzlebrake
02-16-2011, 07:45 AM
Hey,
Is there a list of all these NY contests, I saw the Empire State Championship List, but if there are more contests I might wanna amend my schedule...Looks like I moved up here at the right time :-)

Neil

I haven't been able to find one. If you do please post it

gellertt
02-16-2011, 09:28 AM
Hey everyone: Just curious if there is any word yet on the 2011 Battle of the Brethren here on Long Island. The summer is filling up quickly. P.S. Just got notification from the Troy folks that the July Troy Pig Out team applications are coming out soon. Can't wait for the weather to warm up!

Best to everyone in the coming season!

Tom gellert
Ed-QUE-cators BBQ

timzcardz
02-16-2011, 10:38 AM
Hey everyone: Just curious if there is any word yet on the 2011 Battle of the Brethren here on Long Island. The summer is filling up quickly. P.S. Just got notification from the Troy folks that the July Troy Pig Out team applications are coming out soon. Can't wait for the weather to warm up!

Best to everyone in the coming season!

Tom gellert
Ed-QUE-cators BBQ


2011 Battle of the BBQ Brethren
Holtsville, NY August 6-7 2011

http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/showthread.php?t=100058

http://www.bbqbattleli.com/

HandsomeSwede
02-16-2011, 11:03 AM
I haven't been able to find one. If you do please post it

nybbqchamp.com has the first 10 comps listed so far. I would say are the ones that are going to be well organized and extremely team centric. As far as I know they mostly run by fellow competitors, Brethren and all-around great people.

The other comps that are new and, to the best of my knowledge, not being put together by competitors are the aforementioned radio station comps in Buffalo and Albany. I believe these are in July and are now listed at the KCBS site, though with no details, no website and no reps attached.

The other(s) is Father's Day weekend I believe, the same weekend as the Wilson comp already listed at nybbqchamp.com. You can go to smokeonthewatersyracuse.com but there are no apps posted yet. I have talked to the guy, he says he is KCBS (though it is not listed yet on the KCBS site) sanctioned and will be in on the Empire Series. This is being put together by a promotions group and it part of a whole weekend of boat races and car shows. He says he is going to have a large pot but that it is going to be split: basically back to back KCBS comps on Saturday and Sunday.

That's 14 comps right there.

Cue's Your Daddy
02-16-2011, 11:21 AM
Isnt it a good thing to have as many contest as we can have in the NorthEast? Seems like most of the contests have good turn outs and I remember couple years ago people wanted more contests but i could be way off.

goodsmokebbq
02-16-2011, 04:30 PM
I haven't been able to find one. If you do please post it


I am finding it very hard to keep up... head spinning...

ique
02-28-2011, 10:55 AM
Yes two new comps run by Arlie Bragg..not really happy about this as one is the same day as our event and the other is the week prior. Seems like KCBS wanted the cash y so they keep booking comps.

What is the current KCBS guideline for sanctioning nearby contests on the same weekend?

Lakeside Smoker
02-28-2011, 11:12 AM
What is the current KCBS guideline for sanctioning nearby contests on the same weekend?

I don't think there is one. On July 23 weekend KCBS will sanction Harpoon, Western Maine, and now one of these NY comps. (Buffalo I think.) That's crazy. Harpoon and Fryeburg, ME are only 149 miles away from each other. Then add a Buffalo, NY comp to that? 3 comps in the NY/NE area on the same weekend? Hopefully there will be enough teams to support all the events, but I don't think there is.

-Mike

BBQchef33
02-28-2011, 11:21 AM
I thought the guideline for event saturation was within 250 miles on the same weekend?

BBQchef33
02-28-2011, 11:32 AM
just read thru the sanctioing documents. On page 5, They have a disclaimer about the "policy' regarding approval based on team density in an area, but dont say what the policy is.

This policy is not intended to change any of the policy concerning, saturation and density of cooks when
considering contests in a geographical area.

timzcardz
02-28-2011, 11:59 AM
I don't think there is one. On July 23 weekend KCBS will sanction Harpoon, Western Maine, and now one of these NY comps. (Buffalo I think.) That's crazy. Harpoon and Fryeburg, ME are only 149 miles away from each other. Then add a Buffalo, NY comp to that? 3 comps in the NY/NE area on the same weekend? Hopefully there will be enough teams to support all the events, but I don't think there is.

-Mike

You do realize that Buffalo is 400+ miles from Harpoon, don't you?

Ohio competitions should be more concerned about what goes on in Buffalo.


And if it is an issue the better/competitor friendly competition will win out and put pressure on the others to improve . . . and isn't that a good thing?

Lakeside Smoker
02-28-2011, 12:05 PM
You do realize that Buffalo is 400+ miles from Harpoon, don't you?




Yeah, I have a map. I'm more upset about that Harpoon and Maine are 149 miles away.

-Mike

Muzzlebrake
02-28-2011, 12:15 PM
I don't think there is one. On July 23 weekend KCBS will sanction Harpoon, Western Maine, and now one of these NY comps. (Buffalo I think.) That's crazy. Harpoon and Fryeburg, ME are only 149 miles away from each other. Then add a Buffalo, NY comp to that? 3 comps in the NY/NE area on the same weekend? Hopefully there will be enough teams to support all the events, but I don't think there is.

-Mike

I e-mailed Arlie asking for info about teh Albany contest, haven't heard anything yet. If I get any info, I will pass it along.

Harpoon isn't listed on the KCBS website and in reality has turned into an invitational. Even so I think the distance between them and Buffalo is enough to draw from a different team base. There seems to be a large group of western NY/PA. Canadian and Ohio teams that Buffalo is convienent. I think the Fryeburg should do alright with the people that didn't make it into Harpoon (or pass the SAT as I like to call it.:becky:).

Looking at the bigger picture you can really make a good summer of it if you start at Boston Hills, hit up Lake Placid, Troy, Harpoon/Fryeburg/Buffalo, Albany/Brockport, Holtsville, Eliot, ME, New Paltz, New Holland.....

Should give everyone ample opportunity to warm up for the Sam's Series!!

Muzzlebrake
02-28-2011, 12:21 PM
And if it is an issue the better/competitor friendly competition will win out and put pressure on the others to improve . . . and isn't that a good thing?

It should create that kind of pressure but in reality it would be 2-3 years before you see thise changes. I think that unless a first year contest is just a total flop, most people would be willing to give it a second chance.

It can be but it can also lead to a "watering down" of the draws for some of the major events and have adverse consequences for things like KCBS/NEBS ToY standing and the ESBC.

Big Ugly's BBQ
02-28-2011, 12:22 PM
All that is good news for you yankees, stay on that side of the line and no one gets hurt............:cool::cool::cool:


Just having some good ol' Mason-Dixon Line humor.

Seriously, though, sometimes we wish we had that problem down here.

Muzzlebrake
02-28-2011, 12:26 PM
All that is good news for you yankees, stay on that side of the line and no one gets hurt............:cool::cool::cool:


I'm going to remind you, you said this when you ask why you didnt end up on the beach in Roc City!
:becky:

It is one hell of a good problem to have. To think we used to bitch that we didnt have to opportunity to cook as much as the teams in the Midwest.

Big Ugly's BBQ
02-28-2011, 12:30 PM
I'm going to remind you, you said this when you ask why you didnt end up on the beach in Roc City!
:becky:

Don't mess with our spot at Roc City, we adjusted our site set up just for that comp, complete with Tiki Bar, swimming pool, and BeerMeister!

BBQchef33
02-28-2011, 12:38 PM
i just got off the phone with Dawn @ KCBS.

There used to be a 100 mile rule. (no contest/same weekend/witing 100 miles). It was lifted 3 years ago due to more teams forming in areas, especially the midwest, where they are able to support multiple contests per weekend.

Now, prior to the BOD meeting, the board is presented with a list of contests requesting sanctioning ,and the mileage to nearby contests on the same weekend. The board looks at distance, team saturation and available reps and makes a decision. There are no hardcoded specs or regulations.


Oh, and Wilson is going up for sanctioning, and also a new contest is in for Liverpool NY? Do we know about that one or does that make 15? (Wheres Liverpool, NY?:confused:)

scm1226
02-28-2011, 12:52 PM
Liverpool is about 20 minutes outside Syracuse!

BBQchef33
02-28-2011, 12:59 PM
Liverpool is about 20 minutes outside Syracuse!

NYC to Liverpool, Google says 251 miles from NYC
Route:251.6 miles, 4 hr 3 min

HandsomeSwede
03-01-2011, 09:37 AM
The organizer of the Liverpool told me a month ago that he had sanctioning for back to back KCBS comps on Sat. & Sun. But he doesn't have any apps and KCBS does not have it listed.

LindaM
03-01-2011, 02:36 PM
I don't think there is one. On July 23 weekend KCBS will sanction Harpoon, Western Maine, and now one of these NY comps. (Buffalo I think.) That's crazy. Harpoon and Fryeburg, ME are only 149 miles away from each other. Then add a Buffalo, NY comp to that? 3 comps in the NY/NE area on the same weekend? Hopefully there will be enough teams to support all the events, but I don't think there is.

-Mike

The 50 mile requirement was removed a few years ago. It was up to the local BOD member to tell the rest of the board if there was conflict in the area. Oh that's right there is no local BOD for the Northeast anymore.....

dreed
03-01-2011, 02:49 PM
I got a comp turned down for a 90 mile proximity, even though I made a compelling argument that our teams are from different demographics.
I guess the BOD from down south knows the NE so well he can make that call.