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goodbuddiesbbq
02-10-2011, 05:02 PM
What I am looking for is how much do you typically spend on average per event?

This includes Entry Fee, Gas, Tolls, Food, Beer, Comp Food, Charcoal, Wood, Pellets, Sauces, Rubs, Foil, Cleaners New Utensils...Everything!

Best Guesses Only...it'll be interesting to see what the "Winners" have to say.

moocow
02-10-2011, 05:05 PM
This weekend we are spending $485 on everything including gas and we are driving 550 miles round trip. This is about what we spend everywhere except the American Royal.

roksmith
02-10-2011, 05:05 PM
I'd guess $600-800 depending on how far we travel for us.

rooftop bbq
02-10-2011, 05:06 PM
about 650 we try and make about half it back in peoples choice

Spanx
02-10-2011, 05:09 PM
$800+ when we do an MBN and under $500 when we do IBCA

Rub
02-10-2011, 05:17 PM
Probably right around $600.

Yazoo's
02-10-2011, 06:29 PM
For the average contest we spend about $750 or so at KCBS and around $1800 for a MBN contest (those whole hogs add up!) Obviously, driving distance, entrance fees and the like can add or subtract up to $400 to a contest.

ZILLA
02-10-2011, 06:50 PM
95% of the comps I do average $250.00 in expenses the rest run between $300-$350 with Pasadena running $600.00 (That includes two nights at a Holiday Inn Express).

HawgNationBBQ
02-10-2011, 06:55 PM
We spend about $1,000.00 per KCBS event. That includes entry fee, travel, (2) hotels, competition food, meals, and alcohol.

goodbuddiesbbq
02-10-2011, 07:45 PM
Lets say a contest pays $10,000.

Overall Top 5 Get Paid:
GC - Gets $2000
RGC - Gets $1200
3rd - Gets $400
4th - Gets $240
5th - Gets $160

Would you consider those payouts weak for 1st & 2nd?

Category Gets:
1st - $400
2nd -$300
3rd - $200
4th - $150
5th - $100
6th - $90
7th - $80
8th - $70
9th - $60
10th - $50

In a scenario like this...I would say that probably 3-4 teams would make money or break even. Possibly another 4-6 teams would recover at least half of their expenses.

My opinion is this...if an event has a lot of teams competing (50 or more), there are probably 3-5 teams that could say they had the best stuff on that day IMO. However, with different judging tables, no matter weak or strong, the top can be separated by only a few points.

Currently, it seems like 2-3 people make money or break even and 2-3 teams might get half back, maybe. I compete with a team that has had some pretty good success, but in a comp with 70 teams and getting 3 mid range category calls and a finish less than 2nd...we walked with a $100. 1 bad table away from making some real noise (chicken was good, judges were wrong). In this scenario, we would have walked with $440 and probably only lost $250. Instead, we eat $650 and walk back with so many trophies it looks like we robbed a senior bowling league.

Trophies are nice, but I'd rather compete more often.

Are more people in favor of winner take all (McCain/Palin) or share the wealth (Obama/Biden)?

Trickle Down Economics meets BBQ! And if this is my 3rd Strike...let it be...Obama 2012! Don't you remove this Jorge!

Smokenstein & monster crew
02-10-2011, 07:56 PM
Lots of time & patience.........
its actually all priceless, the fun, spending time with family friends & the BBQ community

Jeff Hughes
02-10-2011, 07:57 PM
That's a good payout schedule. The GC, RGC and categories are typical for this area.

We often see a fifth category. We never see payment down 5 overall in a 10k comp.

I like the way you did it.

Mister Bob
02-10-2011, 08:00 PM
About $700 to $800 depending on how far we travel.

TooSaucedToPork
02-10-2011, 08:02 PM
We do about $500 a contest in KCBS. $700 for a MBN. And about $8500 for Memphis in May That's Gas, Meat, Entry, Booze, well everything...

Neil

jbrink01
02-10-2011, 08:06 PM
About $750.

Smoke'n Ice
02-10-2011, 08:06 PM
My wife and I own a small cafe and tea room and when we leave on Friday and Saturday, we have to bring in extra staff. This is why I budget an average of $1,000 per contest to go play at our hobby. There is no way that we can ever recover this, so we truly treat it as a hobby. With the exception of one contest in TX, the rest are at least 300 miles one way. Towing the trailer with gas at $3 average sucks. The way I look at it, I could have a boat and pour money into a hole in the water, I could play golf and pour money into the ground, race funny cars and pour money into the pavement, or we can compete with BBQ and have a good time and pour money into the pit.

Bentley
02-10-2011, 08:33 PM
Depending on distance, $500-$600. Give the Money to GC & RGC, they deserve it. Pay through 5 places...If you arent good enough to get up there, get better.

Yes, I would consider those pay outs for 1st & 2nd weak!

Smokin' Bad Habit
02-10-2011, 09:26 PM
average of 500+....the Royal last year we dropped at least 1500....

Just Smokin' Around
02-10-2011, 10:01 PM
95% of the comps I do average $250.00 in expenses the rest run between $300-$350 with Pasadena running $600.00 (That includes two nights at a Holiday Inn Express).

Wow Zilla! That's pretty sweet. The entry fees alone around here run $250. By the time I add a stamp and mail it, I'm already over your average. There are a few that are $200 or $225. By the time we buy contest meat, supplies, food, drinks and travel - we're right around $500-550. No hotels.

Fatback Joe
02-11-2011, 07:02 AM
About $600 for me.

Solidkick
02-11-2011, 07:59 AM
I could do it for less, but I tend to like choices at turn in time so I cook more that one brisket and butt. Now if gas and meat prices continue to rise, some decisions are going to have to be made concerning this..... :(

early mornin' smokin'
02-11-2011, 09:59 AM
average entrance fee for our local contest is right around 225-250, comp meats from restaurant depot - $160-200, Sauces, Rubs, Charcoal, Wood - $100, Beer, booze, and food for us, $200...i'd say we're usually right around $600. Hoping to actually pull my team out of hibernation for the upcoming season.

chromesporty
02-11-2011, 10:50 AM
Wow Zilla! That's pretty sweet. The entry fees alone around here run $250. By the time I add a stamp and mail it, I'm already over your average. There are a few that are $200 or $225. By the time we buy contest meat, supplies, food, drinks and travel - we're right around $500-550. No hotels.


Average entry fee for an IBCA or LSBS event is prolly $75. There are a few $100 entry fees. That's why it took me a day to pull the trigger on that $250 fee for the Sam's Club contest. That's well over half of a normal contest expense.

Divemaster
02-11-2011, 11:03 AM
It runs us between $500 - $750 per contest with fees around $250 per.

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slowerlowerbbq
02-11-2011, 12:25 PM
I'd be scared to put together all the receipts from a contest to know what we really spend, since we only did 4 last year and we'll probably do 6 this year. if I had to guess, it's probably close to $600-700.

If I have to think too hard about the cost of my hobby...it might take some of the fun out of it.

timzcardz
02-11-2011, 12:34 PM
Like slowerlowerbbq, I honestly have no idea what it costs me and I probably don't want to know.

I'm in this for the fun, and quality time spent with family and friends, and that is priceless.

Bbq Bubba
02-11-2011, 01:55 PM
You forgot a choice on your poll....

You have sponsors and are treated like spoiled little biotches. :thumb:

goodbuddiesbbq
02-11-2011, 02:09 PM
You forgot a choice on your poll....

You have sponsors and are treated like spoiled little biotches. :thumb:


Do I still owe you guys $150? I get a request every so often, but I thought I had my card on file.

Alexa RnQ
02-11-2011, 02:19 PM
You forgot a choice on your poll....

You have sponsors and are treated like spoiled little biotches. :thumb:
*at $1000 to roll out of the driveway, lines right up to be treated like a spoiled little biotch* :thumb:

Smoke'n Ice
02-11-2011, 04:42 PM
I forgot to answer part of your poll and I appologize.
This may sound stupid but, I usually don't even know or care what the payouts are. Some examples are:
1. I have signed up for the Sam's event at Austin and the only thing I can tell you about the payout is there is $400K
(Because that’s an easy number to remember when you have Alzheimer’s) from Sam's for the whole thing.
2. I'll be cooking in Lexington, NC in April and don't have a clue that if I win whether I would cover my expenses
3. I'm cooking in Irving, TX in 2 weeks and know the have money and a calcutta but, again, I have no clue on the money. "Snow balls chance in Hell comes to mind on winning"

That is not, and never has been a deciding factor in the contests that I do. IT IS NOT A BUSINESS, IT IS FUN! A way to relax, drink some beer without too much hassel from the locals, swap a bunch of lies with folks I like, and, in general, let my hair down figuratively. (those that know me will understand this last part) I'm 7 days older than dirt, the part that is left is grey, and I don't give a chit.:-D

Bbq Bubba
02-11-2011, 05:22 PM
Do I still owe you guys $150? I get a request every so often, but I thought I had my card on file.

Ill send another request. :tsk:

bbally
02-11-2011, 05:34 PM
If it's i Colorado we spend about $850 on a KCBS.

Out of Colorado (like Havabbq in two weeks) we spend about $1600 or so.

But we don't run the circuit to make money or break even, we do it cause we love to cook (that is why we have catered for 17 years now as the same company) and it gives us a place to cook and let the public taste what we cook.

I know immediately when I add Sweet Thai Chili sauce to my Chicken that the KCBS training will tell the judge it is not right. OK, but what I care about is did the public like it... did they come back and comment on it.

We spend a lot cause I bring enough meat to feed a taste to lots and lots of people. But to us it is a party and lots of fun....

I have found one way to defray costs... if they run that open ended buck a bone where you supply the meat an just collect tickets I can recover half the money giving the meat away. I just set up a speed line with five meats, five tickets to get a plate of five meats. Average about $800 or so per event. Worth it to me and the teammates as we are there to talk to the public and have fun anyway.

worthsmokin
02-11-2011, 08:57 PM
We spend around $500-$600 per contest. We live in NWMO and most of the contest we go to are at least 300 mi round trip. We are accepting sponsors for our up and coming team, the problem is we could be a up and coming for a long time. Any takers?

Tyler

MoKanMeathead
02-11-2011, 10:21 PM
Our average gross costs for 2010 (16 contests) was $489, our net cost per contest was $262.

RangerJ
02-11-2011, 10:30 PM
To date around $500 per competition.

However, I'm now back in Texas where I can find a competition at a reduced cost in a cow pasture with no electric or water on any given weekend.

will bump this thread at the end of the fiscal year...

Dale P
02-12-2011, 04:38 AM
It cost us at least $600. It really matters how thirsty we are. We can eat cheap, but we dont.

Bourbon Barrel BBQ
02-12-2011, 12:07 PM
We've budgeted between $5-600 average this year.

Lake Dogs
02-12-2011, 04:33 PM
600 - 800 KCBS largely depending on drive, 1200+- MBN and we dont even venture
into the whole hog arena...

thillin
02-13-2011, 03:27 PM
Same boat as Darwin here in TX. With IBCA about $250-300. I could get by cheaper than that if I really tried.

smoke-n-my-i's
02-13-2011, 03:40 PM
It all depends on how far we travel and the price of gas. I have gone for as little as $400 and as much as $1500.... I figured it costs $500 before I hook up the trailer to go. That is registration, meat, drinks, eats, and hopefully most of the gas and no unforeseen mishaps..... and that was before the price of gas started going back up again.....

tearl42
02-13-2011, 07:34 PM
If it's a local comp then Im right around the $500 mark. If have to go anywere when I can cross up in to the $600-$700. We spend over $1000 to go to Lakeland, FL last month. It's hard when you spend that much and you don't come away with anything.

HOG WILD BBQ
02-14-2011, 03:52 PM
1500 including vending